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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomas Winkler <tomas.winkler@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/3] mmc: block: Fix tuning (by avoiding it) for RPMB
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:02:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <572209CB.6080606@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpm4qAqCiY6+RGNg53gTjVS4Kq13YbNLEeUUZNjw3GFpQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/04/16 14:46, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 28 April 2016 at 13:02, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 28/04/16 13:34, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>> On 21 April 2016 at 15:28, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> The RPMB partition only allows certain commands.  In particular,
>>>> the tuning command (CMD21) is not allowed -  refer JEDEC eMMC
>>>> standard v5.1 section 6.2.2 Command restrictions.
>>>>
>>>> To avoid tuning for RPMB, switch to High Speed mode from HS200
>>>> or HS400 mode if re-tuning has been enabled.  And switch back
>>>> when leaving RPMB.
>>>
>>> I would rather just disable re-tuning during this period, instead of
>>> changing the speed mode.
>>> The primary reason to why, is because the latency it would introduce
>>> to first switch to HS speed then back to HS200/400.
>>
>> I wouldn't expect RPMB accesses to be frequent enough for the latency to matter.
>>
>>>
>>> My concern is not the throughput as I expect read/writes request to an
>>> RPMB partition is rather small.
>>>
>>> Of course I realize that we need to take care when disable re-tuning.
>>> Perhaps we can solve that by a re-try mechanism if the RPMB request
>>> fails, and thus perform the re-tuning as part of the re-try?
>>
>> The interdependent nature of RPMB commands suggests that re-trying is not
>> possible.  It seems to me that you would have to make up a new set of
>> commands and start again. i.e. return an error to the user so that they can
>> start again.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> So perhaps returning -EAGAIN could work!?

I don't think existing code would expect that.  Doesn't seem like level of
service I would expect from the kernel.

And the concern is, that being an error path, it gets overlooked.

> 
>>
>> Another dependency is that we always need to re-tune after host runtime
>> suspend, which is why we always hit this problem when RPMB is accessed.  So
> 
> Just to make sure I understand correctly; I would imagine you hit the
> problem *only* when the RPMB partition was already selected, right?

Yes

> 
> Because that would then skip the switch command, and you will
> therefore try to re-tune after the partition has already been switched
> to?

Yes

> 
>> to avoid errors you would either need to disable runtime PM when the RPMB
>> partition is selected (which might be a long time if we don't get an access
>> to another partition), or always switch back to the main partition (not sure
>> if that would mess up the RPMB command sequence though).
> 
> I wouldn't mind that we switch back to the main partition when we have
> served an RPMB IOCTL request. Of course not in between every mmc
> request, in case of using the MULTI IOCTL.
> 
> That would prevent the next regular mmc request on the main partition
> to not have to switch partition and thus get decreased latency.

Doesn't stop us getting CRC errors because the eMMC needs tuning while in
the RPMB partition though.


  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-28 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-21 13:28 [PATCH RFC 0/3] mmc: block: Fix tuning (by avoiding it) for RPMB Adrian Hunter
2016-04-21 13:28 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] mmc: mmc: Factor out mmc_hs200_to_hs() Adrian Hunter
2016-04-21 13:28 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] mmc: mmc: Factor out mmc_hs400_to_hs() and __mmc_hs_to_hs200() Adrian Hunter
2016-04-21 13:28 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] mmc: block: Fix tuning (by avoiding it) for RPMB Adrian Hunter
2016-04-28 10:34   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-04-28 11:02     ` Adrian Hunter
2016-04-28 11:46       ` Ulf Hansson
2016-04-28 13:02         ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2016-05-02  8:24           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-05-02  9:31             ` Adrian Hunter
2016-05-02 11:14               ` Ulf Hansson
2016-04-28  7:21 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] " Adrian Hunter
2016-05-02 21:19   ` Winkler, Tomas

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