From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Vovk <adrianvovk@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Md Sadre Alam <quic_mdalam@quicinc.com>,
axboe@kernel.dk, song@kernel.org, yukuai3@huawei.com,
agk@redhat.com, snitzer@kernel.org,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
adrian.hunter@intel.com, quic_asutoshd@quicinc.com,
ritesh.list@gmail.com, ulf.hansson@linaro.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dm-inlinecrypt: Add inline encryption support
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:14:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zxnl4VnD6K6No4UQ@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAdYy_ms=VmvxZy9QiMkwcNk21a2kVy73c8-NxUh4dNJuLefCg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 10:52:06PM -0400, Adrian Vovk wrote:
> > Why do you assume the encryption would happen twice?
>
> I'm not assuming. That's the behavior of dm-crypt without passthrough.
> It just encrypts everything that moves through it. If I stack two
> layers of dm-crypt on top of each other my data is encrypted twice.
Sure. But why would you do that?
> > No one knows that it actually is encryped. The lower layer just knows
> > the skip encryption flag was set, but it has zero assurance data
> > actually was encrypted.
>
> I think it makes sense to require that the data is actually encrypted
> whenever the flag is set. Of course there's no way to enforce that
> programmatically, but code that sets the flag without making sure the
> data gets encrypted some other way wouldn't pass review.
You have a lot of trusted in reviers. But even that doesn't help as
the kernel can load code that never passed review.
> Alternatively, if I recall correctly it should be possible to just
> check if the bio has an attached encryption context. If it has one,
> then just pass-through. If it doesn't, then attach your own. No flag
> required this way, and dm-default-key would only add encryption iff
> the data isn't already encrypted.
That at least sounds a little better. But it still doesn't answer
why we need this hack instead always encrypting at one layer instead
of splitting it up.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-24 6:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-16 8:57 [PATCH v2 0/3] Add inline encryption support Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-16 8:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] dm-inlinecrypt: " Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-17 5:05 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17 6:38 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-18 5:08 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-21 18:55 ` Eric Biggers
2024-09-24 7:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-24 22:04 ` Eric Biggers
2024-10-01 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-18 3:26 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-18 5:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <CAAdYy_mVy3uXPqWbjPzK_i8w7Okq73wKBQyc95TbnonE36rPgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-10-18 5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-18 15:03 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-23 6:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24 2:52 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 3:17 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 6:14 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-24 7:52 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 9:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24 15:32 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24 16:23 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-29 11:08 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-10-24 8:11 ` Geoff Back
2024-10-24 15:28 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 19:21 ` John Stoffel
2024-10-24 20:45 ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-15 10:59 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-09-16 8:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mmc: cqhci: Add additional algo mode for inline encryption Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-16 8:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mmc: sdhci-msm: " Md Sadre Alam
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