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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Vovk <adrianvovk@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Md Sadre Alam <quic_mdalam@quicinc.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, song@kernel.org, yukuai3@huawei.com,
	agk@redhat.com, snitzer@kernel.org,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, quic_asutoshd@quicinc.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, ulf.hansson@linaro.org,
	andersson@kernel.org, konradybcio@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org,
	gustavoars@kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_srichara@quicinc.com, quic_varada@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dm-inlinecrypt: Add inline encryption support
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 23:14:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zxnl4VnD6K6No4UQ@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAdYy_ms=VmvxZy9QiMkwcNk21a2kVy73c8-NxUh4dNJuLefCg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 10:52:06PM -0400, Adrian Vovk wrote:
> > Why do you assume the encryption would happen twice?
> 
> I'm not assuming. That's the behavior of dm-crypt without passthrough.
> It just encrypts everything that moves through it. If I stack two
> layers of dm-crypt on top of each other my data is encrypted twice.

Sure.  But why would you do that?

> > No one knows that it actually is encryped.  The lower layer just knows
> > the skip encryption flag was set, but it has zero assurance data
> > actually was encrypted.
> 
> I think it makes sense to require that the data is actually encrypted
> whenever the flag is set. Of course there's no way to enforce that
> programmatically, but code that sets the flag without making sure the
> data gets encrypted some other way wouldn't pass review.

You have a lot of trusted in reviers. But even that doesn't help as
the kernel can load code that never passed review.

> Alternatively, if I recall correctly it should be possible to just
> check if the bio has an attached encryption context. If it has one,
> then just pass-through. If it doesn't, then attach your own. No flag
> required this way, and dm-default-key would only add encryption iff
> the data isn't already encrypted.

That at least sounds a little better.  But it still doesn't answer
why we need this hack instead always encrypting at one layer instead
of splitting it up.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24  6:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-16  8:57 [PATCH v2 0/3] Add inline encryption support Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] dm-inlinecrypt: " Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-17  5:05   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17  6:38   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-18  5:08   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-21 18:55   ` Eric Biggers
2024-09-24  7:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-24 22:04       ` Eric Biggers
2024-10-01  8:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-18  3:26       ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-18  5:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <CAAdYy_mVy3uXPqWbjPzK_i8w7Okq73wKBQyc95TbnonE36rPgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-10-18  5:56             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-18 15:03               ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-23  6:57                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24  2:52                   ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24  3:17                     ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24  6:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-10-24  7:52                       ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24  9:04                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24 15:32                           ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 15:59                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-10-24 16:23                               ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-29 11:08                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-10-24  8:11                     ` Geoff Back
2024-10-24 15:28                       ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-24 19:21                         ` John Stoffel
2024-10-24 20:45                           ` Adrian Vovk
2024-10-15 10:59   ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-09-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mmc: cqhci: Add additional algo mode for inline encryption Md Sadre Alam
2024-09-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mmc: sdhci-msm: " Md Sadre Alam

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