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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Sarthak Garg <quic_sartgarg@quicinc.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_cang@quicinc.com, quic_nguyenb@quicinc.com,
	quic_rampraka@quicinc.com, quic_pragalla@quicinc.com,
	quic_sayalil@quicinc.com, quic_nitirawa@quicinc.com,
	quic_bhaskarv@quicinc.com, kernel@oss.qualcomm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/4] dt-bindings: mmc: controller: Add max-sd-hs-frequency property
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:31:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd73a142-3b22-407f-8e6d-00f4e1e1c8eb@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffc62906-c3bb-4968-8f7c-fa7ae5028ad5@kernel.org>

On 6/23/25 2:16 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 23/06/2025 14:08, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This might be fine, but your DTS suggests clearly this is SoC compatible
>>>>> deducible, which I already said at v1.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why you're rejecting a common solution to a problem
>>>> that surely exists outside this one specific chip from one specific
>>>> vendor, which may be caused by a multitude of design choices, including
>>>> erratic board (not SoC) electrical design
>>>
>>> No one brought any arguments so far that common solution is needed. The
>>> only argument provided - sm8550 - is showing this is soc design.
>>>
>>> I don't reject common solution. I provided review at v1 to which no one
>>> responded, no one argued, no one provided other arguments.
>>
>> Okay, so the specific problem that causes this observable limitation
>> exists on SM8550 and at least one more platform which is not upstream
>> today. It can be caused by various electrical issues, in our specific
>> case by something internal to the SoC (but external factors may apply
>> too)
>>
>> Looking at the docs, a number of platforms have various limitations
>> with regards to frequency at specific speed-modes, some of which seem
>> to be handled implicitly by rounding in the clock framework's
>> round/set_rate().
>>
>> I can very easily imagine there are either boards or platforms in the
>> wild, where the speed must be limited for various reasons, maybe some
>> of them currently don't advertise it (like sm8550 on next/master) to
>> hide that
> 
> But there are no such now. The only argument (fact) provided in this
> patchset is: this is issue specific to SM8550 SoC, not the board. See
> last patch. Therefore this is compatible-deducible and this makes
> property without any upstream user.

When one appears, we will have to carry code to repeat what the property
does, based on a specific compatible.. And all OS implementations will
have to do the same, instead of parsing the explicit information

Konrad

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-18  7:28 [PATCH V3 0/4] Add level shifter support for qualcomm SOC's Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 1/4] mmc: sdhci-msm: Enable tuning for SDR50 mode for SD card Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 2/4] dt-bindings: mmc: controller: Add max-sd-hs-frequency property Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-18  8:38     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  9:08       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-20  9:07         ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-21 10:20     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-22  9:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 12:08         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-23 12:16           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-23 12:31             ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2025-06-24  6:06               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-01  9:04                 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-01  9:30                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-24 11:48                     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 3/4] mmc: core: Introduce a new flag max-sd-hs-frequency Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:28 ` [PATCH V3 4/4] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8550: Remove SDR104/SDR50 broken capabilities Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  7:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-18  8:44     ` Sarthak Garg
2025-06-18  9:08       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-21 10:23   ` Konrad Dybcio

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