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To: Yunseong Kim Cc: Byungchul Park , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel_team@skhynix.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, will@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, joel@joelfernandes.org, sashal@kernel.org, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, duyuyang@gmail.com, johannes.berg@intel.com, tj@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu, willy@infradead.org, david@fromorbit.com, amir73il@gmail.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, kernel-team@lge.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@kernel.org, minchan@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, sj@kernel.org, jglisse@redhat.com, dennis@kernel.org, cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com, vbabka@suse.cz, ngupta@vflare.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, jlayton@kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com, hch@infradead.org, djwong@kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rodrigosiqueiramelo@gmail.com, melissa.srw@gmail.com, hamohammed.sa@gmail.com, harry.yoo@oracle.com, chris.p.wilson@intel.com, gwan-gyeong.mun@intel.com, max.byungchul.park@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, longman@redhat.com, yunseong.kim@ericsson.com, yeoreum.yun@arm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, matthew.brost@intel.com, her0gyugyu@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net, catalin.marinas@arm.com, bp@alien8.de, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org, sumit.semwal@linaro.org, gustavo@padovan.org, christian.koenig@amd.com, andi.shyti@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mcgrof@kernel.org, petr.pavlu@suse.com, da.gomez@kernel.org, samitolvanen@google.com, paulmck@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org, neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org, joelagnelf@nvidia.com, josh@joshtriplett.org, urezki@gmail.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com, qiang.zhang@linux.dev, juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com, chuck.lever@oracle.com, neil@brown.name, okorniev@redhat.com, Dai.Ngo@oracle.com, tom@talpey.com, trondmy@kernel.org, anna@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org, bigeasy@linutronix.de, clrkwllms@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, ada.coupriediaz@arm.com, kristina.martsenko@arm.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, broonie@kernel.org, kevin.brodsky@arm.com, dwmw@amazon.co.uk, shakeel.butt@linux.dev, ast@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com, yuzhao@google.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, usamaarif642@gmail.com, joel.granados@kernel.org, richard.weiyang@gmail.com, geert+renesas@glider.be, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, linux@treblig.org, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, lillian@star-ark.net, chenhuacai@kernel.org, francesco@valla.it, guoweikang.kernel@gmail.com, link@vivo.com, jpoimboe@kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org, thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de, oleg@redhat.com, mjguzik@gmail.com, andrii@kernel.org, wangfushuai@baidu.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, 2407018371@qq.com, dakr@kernel.org, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, neilb@ownmail.net, bagasdotme@gmail.com, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com, dave.hansen@intel.com, geert@linux-m68k.org, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, lossin@kernel.org, a.hindborg@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, Chris Mason , Roman Gushchin , Josef Bacik , Yunseong Kim References: <20251205071855.72743-1-byungchul@sk.com> <6b2a816f-eb3b-4e0c-a024-ee2e3743eb04@kernel.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Harry Yoo In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/23/26 11:00 PM, Yunseong Kim wrote: > I've previously experimented with running DEPT alongside syzkaller fuzzing, > and many hung tasks missed by lockdep are caught by DEPT, but the resulting > high volume of reports makes it easy for issues to get lost in the massive > log output. Sorting through that output manually is a huge bottleneck, so > leveraging a well-crafted AI prompt to triage the warnings and filter out > the false positives would be incredibly valuable. I mean both 1) detection of deadlock issues AND 2) false positive elimination with AI. If the review prompt is only used to eliminate DEPT's false positives, I think that would be quite hard to get broad use. Someone would have to build out-of-tree DEPT, collect the reports, and then feed those back into the AI. I don't think building that kind of pipeline would actually work well in practice. -- Cheers, Harry / Hyeonggon