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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 02/12] pkcs7: Allow the signing algo to calculate the digest itself
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 12:31:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1501916.1768998695@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aW_BAchcx2_TXASz@kernel.org>

Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> wrote:

> I'd use the wording you used already in commit message, which
> factors more descriptive than what you have here. E.g., name
> it "external_digest".

ML-DSA uses "external" to mean that the caller does the
digestion/hashing/XOF-ing/whatever Eric wants to call it, but the caller also
has to put other stuff into the digest/hash/XOF/thing that then gets passed to
ML-DSA if it does this.

For added confusion, the NIST FIPS tests seem to consider what this patch does
as 'external' but an "external mu" as 'internal':

	"tgId": 1,
	"testType": "AFT",
	"parameterSet": "ML-DSA-44",
	"signatureInterface": "external",
	"preHash": "pure",

vs:

	"tgId": 7,
	"testType": "AFT",
	"parameterSet": "ML-DSA-44",
	"signatureInterface": "internal",
	"externalMu": true,

I haven't come up with a better name that particularly describes this.  Maybe
use "no_prehash" or "algo_takes_hash" or "algo_takes_data"?

Maybe better than using a true/false value, use an enum?

	enum public_key_hash {
		ALGO_SIGNS_HASH, /* RSA, ECDSA, ... */
		ALGO_SIGNS_DATA, /* MLDSA, ... */
	};

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-21 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20 14:50 [PATCH v13 00/12] x509, pkcs7, crypto: Add ML-DSA and RSASSA-PSS signing David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 01/12] crypto: Add ML-DSA crypto_sig support David Howells
2026-01-20 17:37   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 20:52   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 02/12] pkcs7: Allow the signing algo to calculate the digest itself David Howells
2026-01-20 17:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-21 12:31     ` David Howells [this message]
2026-01-24 11:46       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 21:12   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-23 11:37     ` David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 03/12] pkcs7: Allow direct signing of data with ML-DSA David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 04/12] pkcs7, x509: Add ML-DSA support David Howells
2026-01-20 21:17   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 05/12] modsign: Enable ML-DSA module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 21:38   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21 14:21     ` David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 06/12] crypto: Add supplementary info param to asymmetric key signature verification David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 07/12] crypto: Add RSASSA-PSS support David Howells
2026-01-20 22:41   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 23:15     ` David Howells
2026-01-20 23:36       ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21  8:11         ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-21  2:14     ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-21  8:15       ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 08/12] pkcs7, x509: " David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 09/12] modsign: Enable RSASSA-PSS module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 10/12] pkcs7: Add FIPS selftest for RSASSA-PSS David Howells
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 11/12] x509, pkcs7: Limit crypto combinations that may be used for module signing David Howells
2026-01-20 18:31   ` Ignat Korchagin
2026-01-20 18:54     ` David Howells
2026-01-20 21:51   ` Vitaly Chikunov
2026-01-20 23:18     ` David Howells
2026-01-20 22:14   ` Eric Biggers
2026-01-20 14:50 ` [PATCH v13 12/12] pkcs7: Add ML-DSA FIPS selftest David Howells
2026-01-20 17:54   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 17:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-20 21:43   ` Eric Biggers

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