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From: Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com>,
	<linux-modules@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hui Wang <hw.huiwang@huawei.com>, Xiaoyi Su <suxiaoyi@huawei.com>,
	Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] modules: wait do_free_init correctly
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 13:27:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231220052751.3zcnsnvjk5vf5t7j@M910t> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZYIQgz+de/JQl10N@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 01:52:03PM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 12:51:51PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 22:12:31 +0800 Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The commit 1a7b7d922081 ("modules: Use vmalloc special flag") moves
> > > do_free_init() into a global workqueue instead of call_rcu(). So now
> > > we should wait it via flush_work().
> > 
> > What are the runtime effects of this change?
> 
> Indeed that's needed given how old this culprit commit is:
> 
> git describe --contains 1a7b7d922081
> v5.2-rc1~192^2~5
> 
> Who did this work and for what reason? What triggered this itch?
>
Seems the waiting was introduced by commit ae646f0b9ca ("init: fix false positives
in W+X checking").

As what I have observed, mark_readonly() is only invoked by the first user mode
thread function kernel_init(), which is before userspace /init. So is it real
possible we have loaded modules at this point?

Cc Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@codeaurora.org>
> Is it perhaps for an out of tree driver that did something funky
> on its module exit?
> 
> As per Documentation/RCU/rcubarrier.rst rcu_barrier will ensure the
> callbacks complete, so interms of determinism both mechanisms will
> have waited for the free. It seems we're now just limiting the scope.
> 
> This could also mean initialization grew used to having RCU calls on
> init complete at this point in time, even for modules, and so localizing
> this wait may now also introduce other unexpected behaviour.
> 
>   Luis

-- 
Cheers,
Changbin Du

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-20  5:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-19 14:12 [PATCH] modules: wait do_free_init correctly Changbin Du
2023-12-19 20:51 ` Andrew Morton
2023-12-19 21:52   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-20  5:27     ` Changbin Du [this message]
2023-12-20 14:32       ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-12-21  2:30         ` Changbin Du
2023-12-25  4:07           ` Changbin Du

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