From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57F9738F87 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.133.124 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710925574; cv=none; b=tKnkLd+sv/vwVatqBlPQ0mck+ebEkNTyzRuV73/PJisqJQCP9MsxnsuREzaaBHMOYWcv6xLUVerCy2T0E0OaLcSIoze9Gi4IusPWMp+s/+TR5mdkI3MmuotWNWzdvFLA6299SMBdCBj+LGeayqcpjIjUFau4YjGApbxIvjTmesM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1710925574; c=relaxed/simple; bh=8lwjyQITuheNeB9Vu3OmDxtdVLx5btiGj0xDyxl4XLk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jyq0maUOSmq3Tgz2z5FHmQPVhF697UfWLzHZ0ZO4h2PWI6oqvFCzf7QFtWRYla8Poi8bC2vW9iIlnFuhxq02/Q8vjhA9dOWWe7NdVXnOs+Xlf0oK6z66pxk72yFto/VI8GNMqwEXyA4lPZIAuflToYwfC+Nb/YeJ8PEBjpcG4+8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b=NilXVE6i; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.133.124 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="NilXVE6i" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1710925571; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IRBOfxfdF+xeswjN/1XVD3vXzVCiL8X7F95pf6KZOEY=; b=NilXVE6i8ZQkf0STR+CS0OYwbevUha6WT3dEP/s3GROU9ApBXipLsaDrXvHGouq9wLLP4g 7RnLISw0qGiLz52pvOM6qEHvggZov6PRcAnrB21x1xo2Mh63uLUCkqZS71c+yxV7u6cEIw 0K5KCEj9ysUk7Zohgd3rzBJ1hxHXULE= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx-ext.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-378-NoLFaOk1PjKoZxP1F5TBIg-1; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:06:06 -0400 X-MC-Unique: NoLFaOk1PjKoZxP1F5TBIg-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BA5A383E13E; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fedora.redhat.com (unknown [10.39.192.246]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E958B10E47; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:06:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Jose Ignacio Tornos Martinez To: lucas.demarchi@intel.com Cc: emil.velikov@collabora.com, gustavo.sousa@intel.com, jtornosm@redhat.com, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org, md@linux.it Subject: Re: [PATCH kmod] libkmod: add user soft dependecies Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:05:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20240320090559.8076-1-jtornosm@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-modules@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.11.54.5 > so it's basically a pre softdep, but without libkmod (userspace) trying > to load it before the module requested. So, it's "softer than soft" or > even "something before pre". > > Thinking this way I find the name chosen odd, as the *user*space side of > module loading will actually *not* look into those deps. > > Cc'ing some more people for suggestions, as I only know I don't like > "user", but my suggestions may considered equally bad too: > > dull / still / early / runtime_request / maybe Ok, I thought of "user" because it was only going to be used by user applications but it could have other interpretations. Maybe another idea: "internal" to inform that there are dependencies and these are going to be solved internally? > Anyway, we will need to explain exactly what this is about in > modprobe.d(5). Ok, I will complete it when the dependency name is decided. > Other than the use case of creating a initramfs and not > missing any module, I don't think there would be any, right? Yes, my purpose is only that, I don't have detected any other case. Thanks Best regards José Ignacio