From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3B22126C17; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1731652257; cv=none; b=LtyyWjMa7B4gi0Z+sdILNgwTBzj1QFfn9hIHmt7L0SairnDFqsvpZMitHgkT7Doa6s7K6NyfkDr2Gmd7ALuL5Z6VWykf/GThECpL0b1ew9DqMTAmbx4SVRn9SJC11xDAn7dZnFGuUfkQWXWsQvfwmeTtcopsDkb8KMK4fBV5xjk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1731652257; c=relaxed/simple; bh=jE+fcubQiJTZYuRKvwt2hu15vk3aNy0fI5FIkyuJ1V4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=mrhdLvKb4NLNQuRSCokAvV/qNUS9gaONQmfV8uY6wCHJwhp8XWhtzEi9AvDprr5ChHhyo/bPYnXq8VIe+n0akDvnJqt93UL2mnYURo2Hk6TazKud6bGEsjcH61nIJTMM6G5zw+lFOtT/gQkD/kwyvEaV36aDBz8BlCybDrNinG8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=vrBRiE3m; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="vrBRiE3m" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7422C4CED2; Fri, 15 Nov 2024 06:30:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1731652256; bh=jE+fcubQiJTZYuRKvwt2hu15vk3aNy0fI5FIkyuJ1V4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=vrBRiE3mUalIe8T51KZHKXNwub6M4lwjy4kYvgmbdj14qR7dVu9EC1MnHEt9X3A4T rf6ZueEJZXGqwnIQWFNvTZiXmlKOkVjgQQmWs9Qk36B4eFl+LvMjtiHoAeRUZhPIn2 mZcOw7O0Zz3GCrEcNfPiywFcEA3z0A2r+hzugQyY= Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:30:53 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Werner Sembach Cc: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Luis Chamberlain , tux@tuxedocomputers.com, Petr Pavlu , Sami Tolvanen , Daniel Gomez , linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thorsten Leemhuis Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] module: Block modules by Tuxedo from accessing GPL symbols Message-ID: <2024111517-booting-grafted-8c4c@gregkh> References: <20241114103133.547032-4-ukleinek@kernel.org> <2024111557-unlighted-giggle-0d86@gregkh> <6c1952bc-f58d-4c55-887e-6aa247daec5c@tuxedocomputers.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-modules@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6c1952bc-f58d-4c55-887e-6aa247daec5c@tuxedocomputers.com> On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 07:09:49AM +0100, Werner Sembach wrote: > Hi, > > Am 15.11.24 um 05:43 schrieb Greg KH: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 11:49:04AM +0100, Werner Sembach wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Am 14.11.24 um 11:31 schrieb Uwe Kleine-König: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > the kernel modules provided by Tuxedo on > > > > https://gitlab.com/tuxedocomputers/development/packages/tuxedo-drivers > > > > are licensed under GPLv3 or later. This is incompatible with the > > > > kernel's license and so makes it impossible for distributions and other > > > > third parties to support these at least in pre-compiled form and so > > > > limits user experience and the possibilities to work on mainlining these > > > > drivers. > > > > > > > > This incompatibility is created on purpose to control the upstream > > > > process. Seehttps://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/113423314337991594 for > > > > a nice summary of the situation and some further links about the issue. > > > > > > > > Note that the pull request that fixed the MODULE_LICENSE invocations to > > > > stop claiming GPL(v2) compatibility was accepted and then immediately > > > > reverted "for the time being until the legal stuff is sorted out" > > > > (https://gitlab.com/tuxedocomputers/development/packages/tuxedo-drivers/-/commit/a8c09b6c2ce6393fe39d8652d133af9f06cfb427). > > > As already being implied by that commit message, this is sadly not an issue > > > that can be sorted out over night. > > > > > > We ended up in this situation as MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") on its own does not > > > hint at GPL v2, if one is not aware of the license definition table in the > > > documentation. > > That's why it is documented, to explain this very thing. Please don't > > suggest that documenting this is somehow not providing a hint. That's > > just not going to fly with any lawyer who reads any of this, sorry. > > You are right, that's why when I became aware of the situation this Monday https://gitlab.com/tuxedocomputers/development/packages/tuxedo-drivers/-/commit/9db67459510f18084694c597ff1ea57ef1842f4e > I got the gears to resolve this into moving (me playing devils advocate here > is directly related to this https://lore.kernel.org/all/17276996-dcca-4ab5-a64f-0e76514c5dc7@tuxedocomputers.com/) > and then returned on working on the code rewrite for upstream ( https://lore.kernel.org/all/8847423c-22ec-4775-9119-de3e0ddb5204@tuxedocomputers.com/ > is directly related to that), because I'm a developer not a lawyer. I would strongly suggest you work with your lawyers now as they are the ones that need to resolve this properly. thanks, greg k-h