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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Laight <david.laight@runbox.com>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@kernel.org>,
	Vivi Rodrigo <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/7] kernel.h: drop trace_printk.h
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:39:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260105113902.6bdfcfa8@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aVmyZ0iXzTkNU86y@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:20:55 +0200
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> > 
> > I do not think it is necessary to move it.  
> 
> I'm not talking about move, I'm talking about the C 101 thingy. Any custom API
> should be included before use, otherwise compiler won't see it. Which header do
> you want to include to have this API being provided? Note, it's really bad
> situation right now with the header to be included implicitly via non-obvious
> or obscure path. The discussion moved as far as I see it towards the finding a
> good place for the trace_printk.h.

It's not a normal API. It's for debugging the kernel. Thus it should be
available everywhere without having to add a header. Hence, the best place
to include trace_printk.h, is in kernel.h.

I'm thinking that my proposed config option is the best solution now. For
those that do not care about debugging the kernel, you enable the
"HIDE_TRACE_PRINTK" config so that your builds will be "quicker". But for
everyone else, it will not slow down their workflow when they need to debug
code.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-05 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-25 17:09 [PATCH v4 0/7] Unload linux/kernel.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] kernel.h: drop STACK_MAGIC macro Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] moduleparam: include required headers explicitly Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] kernel.h: move VERIFY_OCTAL_PERMISSIONS() to sysfs.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] kernel.h: include linux/instruction_pointer.h explicitly Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] tracing: Remove size parameter in __trace_puts() Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] tracing: move tracing declarations from kernel.h to a dedicated header Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-25 17:09 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] kernel.h: drop trace_printk.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-12-26 16:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-27 14:45     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-27 15:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-27 19:35         ` Yury Norov
2025-12-27 21:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-28 21:31     ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-29 16:17       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-12-29 16:41         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-12-29 17:19         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-29 22:25         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-30  8:55           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-30 14:21             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-12-30 16:18               ` Yury Norov
2025-12-30 16:46                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-03  0:50         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-03 12:57           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-03 14:22             ` Yury Norov
2026-01-05  9:29               ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-05 16:36                 ` Yury Norov
2026-01-05 16:50                   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-05 18:30                   ` Jani Nikula
2026-01-03 15:36             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-04  0:20               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-05 16:39                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-01-05 17:11                   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-05 18:21                     ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-01-05 19:33                       ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-05 20:04                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-05 20:15                           ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-05 18:02                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-05 18:07                     ` Yury Norov
2026-01-05 18:11                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-27 14:50   ` Andy Shevchenko

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