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From: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
To: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Cc: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] module: Make .static_call_sites read-only after init
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:17:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <31f49892-a9fb-407d-b266-6fd49e3c2bbe@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCJKudevAT5PK09Gu_j_m-oaULumwXab4EkPdv=ZdSu6-PpJQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/13/25 00:21, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> Hi Petr,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 5:05 AM Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/7/25 01:12, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 06:28:58PM +0100, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>>> Le 06/03/2025 à 14:13, Petr Pavlu a écrit :
>>>>> Section .static_call_sites holds data structures that need to be sorted and
>>>>> processed only at module load time. This initial processing happens in
>>>>> static_call_add_module(), which is invoked as a callback to the
>>>>> MODULE_STATE_COMING notification from prepare_coming_module().
>>>>>
>>>>> The section is never modified afterwards. Make it therefore read-only after
>>>>> module initialization to avoid any (non-)accidental modifications.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this suggestion is stupid, I didn't investigate the feasability but:
>>>> why don't we group everything that is ro_after_init in a single section just
>>>> like we do in vmlinux ? That would avoid having to add every new possible
>>>> section in the C code.
>>>>
>>>> Like we have in asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h:
>>>>
>>>> #define RO_AFTER_INIT_DATA                                           \
>>>>      . = ALIGN(8);                                                   \
>>>>      __start_ro_after_init = .;                                      \
>>>>      *(.data..ro_after_init)                                         \
>>>>      JUMP_TABLE_DATA                                                 \
>>>>      STATIC_CALL_DATA                                                \
>>>>      __end_ro_after_init = .;
>>>
>>> I like this idea. Grouping the sections in the module linker script
>>> feels cleaner than having an array of section names in the code. To be
>>> fair, I think this code predates v5.10, where scripts/module.lds.S was
>>> first added.
>>
>> I agree in principle. I like that the information about ro_after_init
>> sections for vmlinux and modules would be in the same source form, in
>> linker scripts. This could eventually allow us to share the definition
>> of ro_after_init sections between vmlinux and modules.
>>
>> The problem is however how to find the location of the __jump_table and
>> static_call_sites data. In vmlinux, as a final binary, they are
>> annotated with start and end symbols. In modules, as relocatable files,
>> the approach is to rely on them being separate sections, see function
>> find_module_sections().
>>
>> I could add start+end symbols for __jump_table and static_call_sites
>> data in scripts/module.lds.S and use them by the module loader, but this
>> would create an inconsistency in how various data is looked up.
> 
> That's a fair point. Perhaps it makes sense to keep these sections
> separate for consistency, and look into cleaning this up later if
> needed.
> 
>> Another problem is that I can't find a way to tell the linker to add these
>> symbols only if the specific data is actually present.
> 
> You can use the preprocessor to add the symbols only if the relevant
> kernel config is present, similarly to how STATIC_CALL_DATA is defined
> in include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h.

Right, that works but only statically. Let's say I update module.lds.S
to:

SECTIONS {
	[...]

	.data..ro_after_init {
		*(.data..ro_after_init)
		__start___jump_table = .;
		*(__jump_table)
		__end___jump_table = .;
#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_STATIC_CALL_INLINE
		__start_static_call_sites = .;
		*(.static_call_sites)
		__end_static_call_sites = .;
#endif
	}
}

What I had in mind is that you can configure the kernel with
CONFIG_HAVE_STATIC_CALL_INLINE, but some modules might not contain any
static calls and so wouldn't have a .static_call_sites section. When
using the above script, such modules would still end up with unnecessary
symbols __start_static_call_sites and __end_static_call_sites defining
an empty range. Worse, if the module doesn't contain any ro_after_init
data, the added symbols would force the linker to create an empty
.data..ro_after_init section.

> 
> In any case, the code looks correct to me. For the series:
> 
> Reviewed-by: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>

-- 
Thanks,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-13  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06 13:13 [PATCH v2 0/3] module: Make .static_call_sites read-only after init Petr Pavlu
2025-03-06 13:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] module: Constify parameters of module_enforce_rwx_sections() Petr Pavlu
2025-03-06 13:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] module: Add a separate function to mark sections as read-only after init Petr Pavlu
2025-03-06 13:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] module: Make .static_call_sites " Petr Pavlu
2025-03-06 17:28   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-03-07  0:12     ` Sami Tolvanen
2025-03-12 12:05       ` Petr Pavlu
2025-03-12 23:21         ` Sami Tolvanen
2025-03-13  8:17           ` Petr Pavlu [this message]
2025-03-06 17:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Luis Chamberlain
2025-04-07 14:14 ` Petr Pavlu

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