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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	Eric Biggers	 <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IMA and PQC
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 17:54:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87883fa611e27f8aa018e46e344846d692700402.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1988760.1769463419@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Mon, 2026-01-26 at 21:36 +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Further, we need to think how we're going to do PQC support in IMA -
> > > particularly as the signatures are so much bigger and verification slower.
> > 
> > Perhaps, but these same reasons would apply to kernel modules, firmware, and
> > the kernel image.  Why would IMA be special?!
> 
> Scale.  I wouldn't expect more than a couple of hundred or so kernel module
> and firmware signatures - and, for the most part, that would be done once
> during boot.  On the other hand, I'm assuming that a lot more IMA signatures
> might need checking and maybe more frequently.

Similarly, most file signatures would be verified on boot and the results cached
to limit the performance impact.  The number of file signatures needing to be
verified is based on policy.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23 17:43 IMA and PQC David Howells
2026-01-26 21:04 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-01-26 21:36   ` David Howells
2026-01-26 22:54     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-01-30 11:17 ` Coiby Xu
2026-01-30 14:10   ` David Howells
2026-02-03 13:43     ` Coiby Xu
2026-01-30 20:31   ` Johannes Wiesböck
2026-02-03 13:32     ` Coiby Xu
2026-02-25 14:25       ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26  0:10         ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 12:42           ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26 14:16             ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26 15:27               ` Simo Sorce
2026-02-26 16:58                 ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 17:22                   ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26 18:32                     ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 19:21                       ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26 19:44                         ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 21:05                           ` Stefan Berger
2026-02-26 18:42                     ` Simo Sorce

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