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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
Cc: linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: About THIS_MODULE
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2026 13:46:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87908221-d205-4edc-a7bc-f05c49c7d698@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79bba1c7-01f5-48ae-8b0d-07e4dcf0127a@suse.com>

On 09/07/2026 15:31, Petr Pavlu wrote:
> On 7/3/26 5:33 PM, John Garry wrote:

Hi Petr,

Apologies for the very slow response. I only noticed your message now.

>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a query which I hope someone can advise on.
>>
>> I am adding a library API which requires a driver to pass the driver module pointer to the API.
>>
>> So we use THIS_MODULE for that purpose.
>>
>> However, adding a sanity check in the library to ensure that pointer is set is a challenge. Normally we would check that the module pointer is non-NULL. However, for a built-in driver module, THIS_MODULE is NULL, so rely on the non-NULL check.
>>
>> Any idea how to deal with this?
> Right, a NULL module pointer is ambiguous if you want to distinguish
> between these two cases. I can't think of a neat way to handle this in
> a library API.
> 
> One option would be to rework THIS_MODULE and introduce a reduced module
> struct also for vmlinux and built-in modules. 

I was thinking of something like this:

init.h

extern struct module builtin_this_module;

#ifdef MODULE
extern struct module __this_module;
#define THIS_MODULE (&__this_module)
#else
#define THIS_MODULE (&builtin_this_module)
#endif

main.c

struct module builtin_this_module;

bool try_module_get(struct module *module)
{
	bool ret = true;

	if (module == &builtin_this_module)
		return true;

	if (module) {
		/* Note: here, we can fail to get a reference */
		if (likely(module_is_live(module) &&
			   atomic_inc_not_zero(&module->refcnt) != 0))
			trace_module_get(module, _RET_IP_);
		else
			ret = false;
	} else {
		pr_warn("cannot take reference to NULL module\n");
		ret = false;
	}
	return ret;
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(try_module_get);

All the module APIs would be need to be able to handle builtin_this_module.

The issue I then see is that other kernel code just relies on 
THIS_MODULE == NULL for builtin or forget to set, like:

static inline int netlink_dump_start(struct sock *ssk, struct sk_buff *skb,
				     const struct nlmsghdr *nlh,
				     struct netlink_dump_control *control)
{
	if (!control->module)
		control->module = THIS_MODULE;

	return __netlink_dump_start(ssk, skb, nlh, control);
}

Cleaning this up would be too difficult.

> However, this isn't
> a trivial change and I can't recall a case in the last few years where
> this has caused a specific issue. Additionally, if someone forgets to
> pass a module pointer somewhere, I would expect it to be fairly easy to
> detect and fix.

Removing modules test coverage is not generally great and that is where 
we use things like try_module_get() to protect - but it only does the 
proper job if the module is properly set.

Thanks,
John

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-29 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03 15:33 About THIS_MODULE John Garry
2026-07-09 14:31 ` Petr Pavlu
2026-07-29 12:46   ` John Garry [this message]

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