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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Adam Bratschi-Kaye" <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, "Petr Pavlu" <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Fiona Behrens" <me@kloenk.dev>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2025 10:30:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frffvvuc.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB0VJ9HRT0VG.GT9HOT7J29EL@kernel.org> (Benno Lossin's message of "Tue, 01 Jul 2025 18:54:16 +0200")

"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:

> On Tue Jul 1, 2025 at 6:27 PM CEST, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 5:43 PM Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ultimately this is something for Miguel to decide.
>>
>> Only if you all cannot get to an agreement ;)
>
> :)
>
>> If Andreas wants to have it already added, then I would say just mark
>> it `unsafe` as Benno recommends (possibly with an overbearing
>> precondition), given it has proven subtle/forgettable enough and that,
>> if I understand correctly, it would actually become unsafe if someone
>> "just" added "reasonably-looking code" elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, if we added code that ran at the same time as the parameter
> parsing (such as custom parameter parsing or a way to start a "thread"
> before the parsing is completed) it would be a problem.

Guys, we are not going to accidentally add this. I do not think this is
a valid concern.

>
>> That way we have an incentive to make it safe later on and, more
>> importantly, to think again about it when such a patch lands,
>> justifying it properly. And it could plausibly protect out-of-tree
>> users, too.
>>
>> This is all assuming that we will not have many users of this added
>> right away (in a cycle or two), i.e. assuming it will be easy to
>> change callers later on (if only to remove the `unsafe {}`).
>
> Yeah we would add internal synchronization and could keep the API the
> same (except removing unsafe of course).

That is true. But I am not going to add an unsafe block to a driver just
to read module parameters. If we cannot reach agreement on merging this
with the `copy` access method, I would rather wait on a locking version.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-02  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-12 13:40 [PATCH v13 0/6] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:38   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 11:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:17       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:41         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:59   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:20     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 10:31         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 11:29     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 11:52       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 12:28       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23  9:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 11:48           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:37             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-23 13:55               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:31             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 15:20               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 11:57                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  7:57                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  8:23                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:18                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:27                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 13:15                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 19:02                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01  8:43                               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01  9:05                                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 14:14                                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 15:43                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 16:27                                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-01 16:54                                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  8:30                                           ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-07-02  8:26                                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 10:01                                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  7:56                                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23  9:47         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] rust: module: use a reference in macros::module::module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] rust: module: update the module macro with module parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 21:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] rust: samples: add a module parameter to the rust_minimal sample Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:48   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:30   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:23         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:31           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] modules: add rust modules files to MAINTAINERS Andreas Hindborg

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