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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
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	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 13:29:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikkq648o.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAQJCUE1C2JE.204A8IS7LBIVZ@kernel.org> (Benno Lossin's message of "Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:15:00 +0200")

"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:

> On Thu Jun 12, 2025 at 3:40 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> +/// A wrapper for kernel parameters.
>> +///
>> +/// This type is instantiated by the [`module!`] macro when module parameters are
>> +/// defined. You should never need to instantiate this type directly.
>> +///
>> +/// Note: This type is `pub` because it is used by module crates to access
>> +/// parameter values.
>> +#[repr(transparent)]
>> +pub struct ModuleParamAccess<T> {
>> +    data: core::cell::UnsafeCell<T>,
>> +}
>> +
>> +// SAFETY: We only create shared references to the contents of this container,
>> +// so if `T` is `Sync`, so is `ModuleParamAccess`.
>> +unsafe impl<T: Sync> Sync for ModuleParamAccess<T> {}
>> +
>> +impl<T> ModuleParamAccess<T> {
>> +    #[doc(hidden)]
>> +    pub const fn new(value: T) -> Self {
>> +        Self {
>> +            data: core::cell::UnsafeCell::new(value),
>> +        }
>> +    }
>> +
>> +    /// Get a shared reference to the parameter value.
>> +    // Note: When sysfs access to parameters are enabled, we have to pass in a
>> +    // held lock guard here.
>> +    pub fn get(&self) -> &T {
>> +        // SAFETY: As we only support read only parameters with no sysfs
>> +        // exposure, the kernel will not touch the parameter data after module
>> +        // initialization.
>
> This should be a type invariant. But I'm having difficulty defining one
> that's actually correct: after parsing the parameter, this is written
> to, but when is that actually?

For built-in modules it is during kernel initialization. For loadable
modules, it during module load. No code from the module will execute
before parameters are set.

> Would we eventually execute other Rust
> code during that time? (for example when we allow custom parameter
> parsing)

I don't think we will need to synchronize because of custom parameter
parsing. Parameters are initialized sequentially. It is not a problem if
the custom parameter parsing code name other parameters, because they
are all initialized to valid values (as they are statics).

>
> This function also must never be `const` because of the following:
>
>     module! {
>         // ...
>         params: {
>             my_param: i64 {
>                 default: 0,
>                 description: "",
>             },
>         },
>     }
>
>     static BAD: &'static i64 = module_parameters::my_param.get();
>
> AFAIK, this static will be executed before loading module parameters and
> thus it makes writing to the parameter UB.

As I understand, the static will be initialized by a constant expression
evaluated at compile time. I am not sure what happens when this is
evaluated in const context:

    pub fn get(&self) -> &T {
        // SAFETY: As we only support read only parameters with no sysfs
        // exposure, the kernel will not touch the parameter data after module
        // initialization.
        unsafe { &*self.data.get() }
    }

Why would that not be OK? I would assume the compiler builds a dependency graph
when initializing statics?


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg




  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-20 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-12 13:40 [PATCH v13 0/6] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:38   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 11:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:17       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:41         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:59   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:20     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 10:31         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 11:29     ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-06-20 11:52       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 12:28       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23  9:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 11:48           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:37             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-23 13:55               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:31             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 15:20               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 11:57                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  7:57                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  8:23                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:18                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:27                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 13:15                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 19:02                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01  8:43                               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01  9:05                                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 14:14                                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 15:43                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 16:27                                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-01 16:54                                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  8:30                                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02  8:26                                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 10:01                                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  7:56                                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23  9:47         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] rust: module: use a reference in macros::module::module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] rust: module: update the module macro with module parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 21:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] rust: samples: add a module parameter to the rust_minimal sample Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:48   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:30   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:23         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:31           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] modules: add rust modules files to MAINTAINERS Andreas Hindborg

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