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From: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>
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	gary@garyguo.net, "Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
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	"Naveen N Rao" <naveen@kernel.org>,
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	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/16] modules: Support extended MODVERSIONS info
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 14:08:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f3f6bd9-47d1-45fa-aa6b-9e0a80a5ebc6@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZxBKkJu-XPOGs-NG@bombadil.infradead.org>

Hi Luis,

On 10/17/24 01:21, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> That sounds great. Yeah, the above would be great to test. A while ago
> I wrote a new modules selftests in order to test possible improvements
> on find_symbol() but I also did this due to push the limits of the
> numbers of symbols we could support. I wrote all this to also test the
> possible 64-bit alignment benefits of __ksymtab_ sections on
> architectures without CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_PREL32_RELOCATIONS (e.g. ppc64,
> ppc64le, parisc, s390x,...). [....]
>
> I forget what we concluded on Helge Deller's alignement patches, I think
> there was an idea on how to address the alignment through other means.
>
> [0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mcgrof/linux.git/log/?h=20241016-modules-symtab

I stumbled upon the unaligned-memory-access.rst document [1].
Please read it, as it is a really good document, and the section
"Why unaligned access is bad" states:
It should be obvious from the above that if your code causes unaligned
memory accesses to happen, your code will not work correctly on certain
platforms and will cause performance problems on others.

With this in mind, you really should apply both of my alignment
patches which you currently carry in [0].

For parisc I partly solved the issue by fixing the arch-specific kernel unalignment
handler, but every time module sections are stored unaligned, it triggers
performance degregation on parisc (and other sensitive platforms).

I suggest you apply them unconditionally.

Helge

[1]  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/core-api/unaligned-memory-access.rst

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-17 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-25 23:38 [PATCH v5 00/16] Extended MODVERSIONS Support Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 01/16] module: Take const arg in validate_section_offset Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 02/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_ehdr Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 03/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_sechdrs Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 04/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_secstrings Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 05/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_index_info Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 06/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_index_mod Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 07/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_index_sym Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 08/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_index_str Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 09/16] module: Group section index calculations together Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 10/16] module: Factor out elf_validity_cache_strtab Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 11/16] module: Additional validation in elf_validity_cache_strtab Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 12/16] module: Reformat struct for code style Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 13/16] export_report: Rehabilitate script Matthew Maurer
2024-10-11 22:13   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-11 22:22     ` Matthew Maurer
2024-10-11 22:29       ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 14/16] modules: Support extended MODVERSIONS info Matthew Maurer
2024-09-26 12:22   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-26 18:36     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-10-11 22:22   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-11 22:27     ` Matthew Maurer
2024-10-11 22:33       ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-11 23:45         ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-11 23:46           ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-15 23:22             ` Matthew Maurer
2024-10-16 23:21               ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-17  4:41                 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-10-17 12:08                 ` Helge Deller [this message]
2024-10-19 20:45                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-10-21 19:35                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 15/16] modpost: Produce extended modversion information Matthew Maurer
2024-09-25 23:38 ` [PATCH v5 16/16] export_report: Use new version info format Matthew Maurer
2024-09-26 22:53 ` [PATCH v5 00/16] Extended MODVERSIONS Support Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-28 21:35 ` Neal Gompa

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