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From: Charles Mirabile <cmirabil@redhat.com>
To: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolas Schier <nsc@kernel.org>,
	Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>,
	da.gomez@samsung.com,  linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	masahiroy@kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,  petr.pavlu@suse.com,
	samitolvanen@google.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 7/8] modpost: Create modalias for builtin modules
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 09:24:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABe3_aE+A7JtEp-8p6A8yM9ONGU4-c36AUFrtW4tGhpnXbvSuQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251010053736.GA447238@ax162>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 1:37 AM Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2025 at 09:52:08PM +0200, Nicolas Schier wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 12:15:21PM +0200, Alexey Gladkov wrote:
> > > Hm. Indeed. I haven't found a good solution yet, but you can use the
> > > following patch to unlock compilation. It won't solve the problem, it will
> > > only hide it.
> > >
> > > --- a/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux
> > > +++ b/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux
> > > @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ endif
> > >  remove-section-y                                   := .modinfo
> > >  remove-section-$(CONFIG_ARCH_VMLINUX_NEEDS_RELOCS) += '.rel*'
> > >
> > > -remove-symbols := -w --strip-symbol='__mod_device_table__*'
> > > +remove-symbols := -w --strip-unneeded-symbol='__mod_device_table__*'
> > >
> > >  # To avoid warnings: "empty loadable segment detected at ..." from GNU objcopy,
> > >  # it is necessary to remove the PT_LOAD flag from the segment.
> > >
> >
> > Is it problematic to hide that?  Otherwise we'd have to revert the
> > patch, right?
>
> Yeah, I would much prefer to ending up with pointless
> __mod_device_table__ symbols in the final binary than erroring out
> during the build... Does this happen with other architectures? I have
> not seen any reports yet but I have not tested anything yet. Why is
> RISC-V special here?
>
> It seems like the relocation comes from the .LASANLOC4 symbol in
> .data.rel.local?
>
>   $ llvm-objdump -Dr drivers/irqchip/irq-riscv-aplic-main.o
>   ...
>   Disassembly of section .data.rel.local:
>   ...
>   0000000000000130 <.LASANLOC4>:
>   ...
>        1c0: 0000          unimp
>           00000000000001c0:  R_RISCV_64   __mod_device_table__kmod_irq_riscv_aplic_main__acpi__aplic_acpi_match
>   ...
>
> I cannot find much information about this ASANLOC outside of its
> location within the GCC sources, do we even need it? I don't see a way
> to opt out of this section altogether or on a per-variable basis, I
> wonder if there is some way to strip it out...

It seems from reading the gcc source that these are emitted to contain
information about where global declarations came from, presumably to
allow nicer ASAN error messages. (i.e. memory corruption affected this
symbol defined here). I don't think that KASAN uses these, but I am
not sure. I also don't know how they could be removed. I found a hit
using grep.app https://grep.app/search?case=true&q=ASANLOC in the
apache/nuttx repository where they seem to be doing something with
these symbols in a linker script, but I am not familiar enough with
linker scripts, or that project to fully understand what is going on.


>
> I plan to send the initial 6.18 Kbuild fixes pull request on Saturday.
> If we cannot figure out a real solution before then, maybe we can just
> switch to '--strip-unneeded-symbol' with a comment to upgrade that to
> '--strip-symbol' when possible?
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-10 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18  8:05 [PATCH v8 0/8] Add generated modalias to modules.builtin.modinfo Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 1/8] s390: vmlinux.lds.S: Reorder sections Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 2/8] kbuild: always create intermediate vmlinux.unstripped Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 3/8] kbuild: keep .modinfo section in vmlinux.unstripped Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-24  6:29   ` Nicolas Schier
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] kbuild: extract modules.builtin.modinfo from vmlinux.unstripped Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 5/8] scsi: Always define blogic_pci_tbl structure Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 6/8] modpost: Add modname to mod_device_table alias Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-24  6:31   ` Nicolas Schier
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 7/8] modpost: Create modalias for builtin modules Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-24  6:38   ` Nicolas Schier
2025-10-07  1:16   ` Charles Mirabile
2025-10-07 10:15     ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-10-09 19:52       ` Nicolas Schier
2025-10-10  5:37         ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-10-10  8:02           ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-10-10 10:58             ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-10-10 13:24           ` Charles Mirabile [this message]
2025-09-18  8:05 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] kbuild: vmlinux.unstripped should always depend on .vmlinux.export.o Alexey Gladkov
2025-09-24  6:39   ` Nicolas Schier
2025-09-18 17:35 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] Add generated modalias to modules.builtin.modinfo Nathan Chancellor
2025-09-24 16:17 ` Nathan Chancellor

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