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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>, "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>
Cc: "Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Petr Pavlu" <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Aaron Tomlin" <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] rust: sync: add SetOnce::try_get_or_populate()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 23:48:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKBZLF7RMQE8.2KQJKLGIE0X6N@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amsVU-1o_zNOIOts@google.com>

On Thu Jul 30, 2026 at 6:11 PM JST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 11:05:55PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Wed Jul 22, 2026 at 6:16 PM JST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> > +    where
>> > +        B: lock::Backend,
>> > +        F: FnOnce() -> Result<T, E>,
>> > +    {
>> > +        if let Some(value) = self.as_ref() {
>> > +            return Ok(value);
>> > +        }
>> > +
>> > +        let mut to_insert = f()?;
>> 
>> This means that `f` can run more than once for a given `SetOnce`, which
>> can lead to problems depending on `f`'s' side-effects.
>> 
>> In the GEM shmem case, we would create a second `SGTableMap`, and since
>> `SGTableMap` assumes it is the sole owner, the last instance to drop
>> would create a use-after-free.
>> 
>> Now this sounds more like a problem with `SGTableMap`, but if we cannot
>> avoid calling `f` at least twice then I think it would help if this was
>> documented.
>
> Hmm ... this is the behavior I want in Binder. Actually creating the
> value is an allocation, but my lock is a spinlock so I cannot invoke f()
> under the lock. This means that each caller will make their own
> allocation, and then we throw away any extras if there are concurrent
> callers.
>
> If GEM shmem wants f() invoked under the lock, then that's just a
> different operation than the one Binder wants.
>
> Do you think we should add both?

Possibly... but this would introduce a potential footgun that sleeps
while holding a spinlock, unless we limit the run-f-under-lock version
to work only with mutexes.

Maybe the proper solution is to fix `SGTableMap` so it supports multiple
instantiations. It is, after all, a bit footgunny on its own.

In any case, the current versions should warn users about the fact that
`f` can be called more than once imho.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260722-setonce-populate-v1-0-fa7455c26c42@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20260722-setonce-populate-v1-2-fa7455c26c42@google.com>
2026-07-22  9:27   ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: sync: add SetOnce::try_get_or_populate() sashiko-bot
2026-07-29 14:05   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-29 14:23     ` Boqun Feng
2026-07-30  9:11     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-07-30 14:48       ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
     [not found] ` <20260722-setonce-populate-v1-1-fa7455c26c42@google.com>
2026-07-22  9:23   ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: sync: return `Result<&T, T>` from `SetOnce::populate()` sashiko-bot
2026-07-29 14:09   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-07-29 14:12 ` [PATCH 0/3] rust: sync: add SetOnce::try_get_or_populate() Alexandre Courbot

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