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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, Yi Chen <yiche@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: modprobe returns 0 upon -EEXIST from insmod
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 12:56:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKMG-LqLs3yaBDiJ@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <edfed2af-8b4d-4afb-b999-5c46b7d46fba@csgroup.eu>

On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 12:07:18PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> [+ Netfilter lists]
> 
> Hi Phil
> 
> Le 18/08/2025 à 11:34, Phil Sutter a écrit :
> > [Vous ne recevez pas souvent de courriers de phil@nwl.cc. Découvrez pourquoi ceci est important à https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> > 
> > Hi Christophe,
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 17, 2025 at 05:54:27PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> >> Le 17/08/2025 à 01:33, Phil Sutter a écrit :
> >>> [Vous ne recevez pas souvent de courriers de phil@nwl.cc. D?couvrez pourquoi ceci est important ? https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I admittedly didn't fully analyze the cause, but on my system a call to:
> >>>
> >>> # insmod /lib/module/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_ftp.ko
> >>>
> >>> fails with -EEXIST (due to a previous call to 'nfct add helper ftp inet
> >>> tcp'). A call to:
> >>>
> >>> # modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp
> >>>
> >>> though returns 0 even though module loading fails. Is there a bug in
> >>> modprobe error status handling?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Read the man page : https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinux.die.net%2Fman%2F8%2Fmodprobe&data=05%7C02%7Cchristophe.leroy%40csgroup.eu%7C34b49eb3d0544fc683e608ddde3a75b2%7C8b87af7d86474dc78df45f69a2011bb5%7C0%7C0%7C638911064858807750%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2F70LV37Zb%2FNeiBV59y9rvkLGh0xsqga08Nl3c5%2BVU5I%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >> In the man page I see:
> >>
> >>              Normally, modprobe will succeed (and do nothing) if told to
> >> insert a module which is already present or to remove a module which
> >> isn't present.
> > 
> > This is not a case of already inserted module, it is not loaded before
> > the call to modprobe. It is the module_init callback
> > nf_conntrack_ftp_init() which returns -EEXIST it received from
> > nf_conntrack_helpers_register().
> > 
> > Can't user space distinguish the two causes of -EEXIST? Or in other
> > words, is use of -EEXIST in module_init callbacks problematic?
> 
> So if I understand correctly the load fails because it is in conflict 
> with another module ?

Yes, it tries to signal that there is already a conntrack helper for
FTP. It is a stub redirecting to an implementation in user space, but
that's just details.

> Then I think the error returned by nf_conntrack_helpers_register() 
> shouldn't be EEXIST but probably EBUSY.

Sounds good! We could at least adjust the module_init callback return
code from EEXIST to EBUSY so the change has minimal impact.

Thanks for your help, Christophe!

Cheers, Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-16 23:33 modprobe returns 0 upon -EEXIST from insmod Phil Sutter
2025-08-17 15:54 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-18  9:34   ` Phil Sutter
2025-08-18 10:07     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-18 10:56       ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2025-08-19  8:52     ` Petr Pavlu
2025-08-19 14:17       ` Lucas De Marchi
2025-08-19 14:32         ` Christophe Leroy
2025-10-08  6:41         ` Lucas De Marchi
2025-10-09 13:47           ` Petr Pavlu
2025-10-09 14:13             ` Lucas De Marchi

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