From: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Qingfang Deng <qingfang.deng@linux.dev>,
Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
Norbert Szetei <norbert@doyensec.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Taegu Ha <hataegu0826@gmail.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Guillaume Nault <gnault@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] ppp: defer channel free to an RCU grace period to fix pppol2tp RX UAF
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 15:04:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bef05178-4856-4b62-9c3b-62bf636c239d@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260708074904.xnpi0mlh@linutronix.de>
On 7/8/26 9:49 AM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-07-07 17:32:10 [+0200], Petr Pavlu wrote:
>>> --- a/kernel/module/main.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/module/main.c
>>> @@ -858,6 +858,9 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE2(delete_module, const char __user *, name_user,
>>> goto out;
>>>
>>> mutex_unlock(&module_mutex);
>>> +
>>> + /* Ensure all rcu callbacks issued by the module have completed */
>>> + rcu_barrier();
>>> /* Final destruction now no one is using it. */
>>> if (mod->exit != NULL)
>>> mod->exit();
>>>
>>> make sense?
>>
>> This is discussed in Documentation/RCU/rcubarrier.rst and
>> Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.rst. The latter
>> contains:
>
> I am aware of this. It is just not the first time I stumble about this.
> But maybe with the AI review these days there won't be a miss.
>
>> I don't know if the last part about unacceptable latencies is still
>> relevant. I haven't done any measurements myself.
>
> There is a synchronize_rcu() later on. I think I could replace it with a
> call_rcu() so we might end up even. I was thinking about about it last
> time I was touching modules but somehow I stopped where I stopped.
> The question is just, is it worth doing it or is it reasonable to expect
> that it is done correctly.
As RCU usage in modules is now more common, I see an argument for the
module loader to invoke rcu_barrier() during module unload to make RCU
usage easier. In general, module unloading is a rare operation, so even
if it becomes somewhat slower, I don't expect it to be a significant
issue.
One problem is that I'm not sure where the new rcu_barrier() call should
be placed. The prototype adds it before calling the module's exit
function. Would this actually fit all modules? From a quick look, I can
see that various modules call it at different points during their exit.
--
Thanks,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-08 13:04 UTC|newest]
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2026-07-06 9:29 ` [PATCH net v2] ppp: defer channel free to an RCU grace period to fix pppol2tp RX UAF Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-07 15:32 ` Petr Pavlu
2026-07-07 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-08 9:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-08 7:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 13:04 ` Petr Pavlu [this message]
2026-07-08 13:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 19:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-08 19:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
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