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From: phrostie <pfrostie@yahoo.com>
To: Bart Oldeman <Bart.Oldeman@bristol.ac.uk>, linux-msdos@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to          use graphics...
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:19:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <103369195401@ispsnet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10209232201410.1328-100000@sh.enm.bris.ac.uk>

an update i did finally get dosemu working.
i can run EZ cosmos, commander keen 1-3, and battle chess.
commander keen 4 and above still lock up.  i did notice that the startup 
windows are reporting no or low memory.

On Monday 23 September 2002 17:14, Bart Oldeman wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> > This problem exists only on some (modern?) cards for VESA
> > modes, but for VGA modes there must be no such problem at
> > all (Bart, do you really have any examples when this is a
> > problem even for VGA? Correct me then, please).
>
> Well VGA only uses standard ports so the only problem is to pass the
> VBIOS initialization in the first place, that is executing the code at
> c000:0003 (or c800:0003, whereever the VBIOS is). On some graphics cards
> this init routine requires additional open ports and maybe even
> accessible MMIO.
>
> Some people reported black screens, or even machines hanging which
> happens when the VBIOS init routine is called.
>
> I'm not sure why this VBIOS init routine is always called if you set
> $_graphics, but at least it gets the video card into a clean state. This
> is esp. important if you use fbdev graphical textmodes on the console
> instead of the standard VGA textmode (80x25).
>
> Maybe by just bypassing the VBIOS init you can avoid this problem; I
> just have never looked into that possibility.
>
> The VBE 2.0 spec defines a protected mode interface - if DOSEMU would
> use that it could ask which ports should be used and opened. However it
> does not currently use that interface, I don't know how to do that and
> am not able to test it anyway (being far away from my desktop where I
> could take some risks).
>
> Bart
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-01  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-23 20:52 please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics Stas Sergeev
2002-09-23 21:14 ` Bart Oldeman
2002-10-01  0:19   ` phrostie [this message]
2002-09-24 10:31 ` phrostie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-04  4:22 Stas Sergeev
2002-09-24 13:20 Stas Sergeev
2002-09-24  1:20 Stas Sergeev
2002-09-24  2:18 ` Bart Oldeman
2002-09-23 22:12 Stas Sergeev
2002-09-23 23:11 ` Bart Oldeman
2002-09-21 22:43 Stas Sergeev
2002-09-09  4:09 matt
2002-09-09 11:26 ` phrostie
2002-09-20 20:57   ` matt
2002-09-20 21:29     ` Bart Oldeman
     [not found]     ` <Pine.GSO.4.05.10209202215490.18306-100000@sh.enm.bris.ac.u k>
2002-09-20 23:37       ` matt
2002-09-21  5:21         ` Pat
2002-09-10  2:08 ` Pat
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209091837470.20167-100000@feather.sunbird.s ys>
2002-09-20 20:52   ` matt
2002-09-21  4:53     ` Pat
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209201954350.30609-100000@feather.sunbird.s ys>
2002-09-21  8:42       ` matt
2002-09-21 16:04         ` Bart Oldeman
2002-09-23 17:33           ` phrostie
2002-09-23 19:25             ` Bart Oldeman
     [not found]         ` <Pine.GSO.4.05.10209211648440.21069-100000@sh.enm.bris.ac.u k>
2002-09-21 20:08           ` matt
2002-09-22 20:46         ` Pat

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