From: Dave Phillips <dlphilp@bright.net>
To: linux-msdos@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>, steve.home@cox.net, ametts@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: no MIDI input with dosemu ?
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 10:16:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FFD7430.10505@bright.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FFD60BF.2070007@aknet.ru>
Stas Sergeev wrote:
> Why? Implementing midi input is trivial,
> but I'm puzzled as of what's the use.
> Dosemu needs a MIDI output as otherwise
> you can't play games. But as for midi
> recording, you can use the native Linux
> programs just fine. And it will actually
> work better, because under dosemu the
> timing is not always accurate. So why
> would anyone ever need that?
No, Stas, I can't use the native Linux sequencers "just fine" and their
developers know it. Unfortunately there is no easy way for them to
accomodate my working method (which results from amenities of the
particular DOS sequencer I like to use). I put about nine years into
working with a particular program (Sequencer Plus, or Seq+ for short)
whose working method is far more amenable to me than that of any native
Linux sequencer. I'm not much of a keyboard player, I'm a guitarist, so
I prefer a MIDI sequencer with exceptional QWERTY keyboard data entry
features, and none of the native Linux sequencers approach the usability
of Seq+ in this regard. Actually I can use Seq+ under DOSemu to meet my
needs, but a few other users have written to me about wanting MIDI input
with Seq+ under DOSemu. Apparently they're not comfortable with the
native Linux MIDI sequencers either.
The developers of the native Linux sequencers know of my needs quite
well (I've been corresponding with all of them since their projects
began). The problem lies in some of their own assumptions and some of
the restrictions forced on them by X11. Also, Seq+ includes many MIDI
features not found in Rosegarden-4, MusE, Jazz++, or seq24. Timing is in
fact very good, especially when run with a Linux kernel patched for
low-latency (I use the Planet CCRMA system). MusE and Rosegarden both
have trouble playing some of my MIDI sequences that Seq+ handles
perfectly under DOSemu. The plain fact is that for my working methods
Seq+ is superior to any native Linux MIDI sequencer. I say this not to
criticize the Linux sequencers, but merely to indicate how far they have
to go before they reach the maturity of an application like Seq+ (which
by 1995 had almost ten years of development).
Btw, I'm uninterested in integrated audio/MIDI sequencing, which is the
design philosophy behind the Jazz++, MusE, and Rosegarden-4 (seq24 is
designed more like a hardware sequencer such as the old Alesis MT8 and
again has little value to my work methods). I'm strictly interested in
MIDI, and it seems to me that the Linux developers are putting more time
into audio-oriented features than into MIDI-specific features. As I
said, they know my opinions about these matters (and we're still
friends, incredible as it seems).
If adding MIDI input capability in DOSemu is trivial, hopefully these
reasons will convince you that it would still be greatly appreciated by
some of us.
Best regards,
Dave Phillips
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-08 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-08 13:53 no MIDI input with dosemu ? Stas Sergeev
2004-01-08 15:16 ` Dave Phillips [this message]
[not found] ` <3FFD9C0D.90804@aknet.ru>
[not found] ` <3FFDA3E1.5070508@bright.net>
2004-01-09 1:18 ` Stas Sergeev
2004-01-09 8:31 ` Ryan Underwood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-16 17:18 Stas Sergeev
2004-01-16 6:21 steve.home
2004-01-16 13:27 ` Dave Phillips
2004-01-16 17:32 ` Stas Sergeev
2004-01-16 22:25 ` Ged Haywood
2004-01-16 23:47 ` Robert Komar
2004-01-20 14:16 ` Dave Phillips
2004-01-20 15:50 ` Bart Oldeman
2004-01-20 20:45 ` Dave Phillips
2004-01-21 4:42 ` Justin Zygmont
2003-12-26 20:17 Is sound in dosemu a myth? JLB
2004-01-08 13:22 ` no MIDI input with dosemu ? Dave Phillips
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