Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Stas Sergeev]

Hello.

Ralph Alvy wrote:
> Is there some way to get MaxThink (a popular DOS 
> outline) to work with dosemu 1.1.99.1?
The short answer is No.
The long answer is... Yes, and is many ways.
Please refer here:
http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-msdos/2000-Jan/0007.html

and then here:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=457448&aid=855611&group_id=49784

for more info.

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Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Ralph Alvy]

Stas Sergeev wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Ralph Alvy wrote:
>> Is there some way to get MaxThink (a popular DOS
>> outline) to work with dosemu 1.1.99.1?
Well, I read those links and don't understand what I might do to make
MaxThink work with dosemu. Doesn't sound promising.

> The short answer is No.
> The long answer is... Yes, and is many ways.
> Please refer here:
> http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-msdos/2000-Jan/0007.html
> 
> and then here:
> https://sourceforge.net
tracker/?func=detail&atid=457448&aid=855611&group_id=49784
> 
> for more info.

Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Ralph Alvy]

Here's what I just got from MaxThink's author:

Subject: Re: MaxThink for DOS: crashing dosemu
Date: Tuesday 09 December 2003 10:16 pm
From: <nlarson@pacbell.net>
To: "Ralph Alvy" <ralvy@warpmail.net>

Ralph:

Many years ago I added a memory extender to dos maxthink so it would run
outlines larger the 640 k.  That memory extender is what makes dos maxthink
not run under linux.

Neil

Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Stas Sergeev]

Hello.

Ralph Alvy wrote:
> Well, I read those links and don't understand what I
> might do to make MaxThink work with dosemu.
The first link gives you the clue that your program
uses a Blinker 3.20 extender.
The second link is a discussion about the
incompatibilities between dosemu and Blinker 3.20 
extender, and the ways of solving it.
The easiest thing mentioned there, is to start the
program from a "DOS Shell" of some DPMI program, for
example bc.exe (Borland C IDE), or by DJGPP's make by
writing a trivial makefile.

> Doesn't sound promising.
That's bad:)

> That memory extender is what makes dos 
> maxthink not run under linux.
True, but the workaround is trivial.

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Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Ralph Alvy]

Stas Sergeev wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Ralph Alvy wrote:
>> Well, I read those links and don't understand what I
>> might do to make MaxThink work with dosemu.
> The first link gives you the clue that your program
> uses a Blinker 3.20 extender.
> The second link is a discussion about the
> incompatibilities between dosemu and Blinker 3.20
> extender, and the ways of solving it.
> The easiest thing mentioned there, is to start the
> program from a "DOS Shell" of some DPMI program, for
> example bc.exe (Borland C IDE), or by DJGPP's make by
> writing a trivial makefile.

I'm not sure what a DPMI program is. Is it simply a program that uses DPMI?
Or do you mean something more than that?

Re: MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Ralph Alvy]

Stas Sergeev wrote:
> The easiest thing mentioned there, is to start the
> program from a "DOS Shell" of some DPMI program, for
> example bc.exe (Borland C IDE), or by DJGPP's make by
> writing a trivial makefile.

Okay. I found a program that seems to use DPMI, which I assume is what
you're suggesting I do. That's Boxer TKO edition, which is the edition of
Boxer text editor that allows editing of files exceeding 640k. It has a DOS
shell in it. This version of Boxer does indeed load in dosemu, and its DOS
shell allows me to load MaxThink.

Thanks.

MaxThink outliner crashes dosemu 1.1.99.1

[Ralph Alvy]

Is there some way to get MaxThink (a popular DOS outline) to work with
dosemu 1.1.99.1? Here's the error message I get when it crashes dosemu:

ERROR: unexpected CPU exception 0x06 err=0x00000000 cr2=00000000 while in
vm86 (DOS)
Program=sigsegv.c, Line=162
EIP: 32b7:0000b10d ESP: 486d:0000ff8c  VFLAGS(b): 00000 00000010 01000110
EAX: 000002b8 EBX: 000002b8 ECX: 00009e00 EDX: 00007d7d VFLAGS(h): 00000246
ESI: 00001000 EDI: 0000486d EBP: 00000003 DS: 486d ES: 053f FS: 0000 GS:
0000
FLAGS: PF ZF IF RF VM VIF  IOPL: 0
STACK: 6d 48 03 00 09 b1 b7 32 46 02 -> 3f 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
OPS  : 45 b8 0a 00 cd 31 72 3a 8b d8 -> 0f 02 cb 8a cd 80 c9 08 2a ed
        0f02cb              32b7:b10d lar     cx,bx