From: <Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com>
To: <tkuw584924@gmail.com>, <michael@walle.cc>
Cc: <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
<richard@nod.at>, <vigneshr@ti.com>, <p.yadav@ti.com>,
<Bacem.Daassi@infineon.com>, <Takahiro.Kuwano@infineon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 6/8] mtd: spi-nor: Retain nor->addr_width at 4BAIT parse
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 07:38:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <070bfe6a-00e8-1c59-c9db-52d249dfbcfe@microchip.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a9a6f4d-37f2-68b4-2770-bff0c09de742@microchip.com>
On 7/22/22 09:08, Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com wrote:
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> On 7/22/22 08:11, Takahiro Kuwano wrote:
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>> On 7/22/2022 2:06 PM, Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com wrote:
>>> On 7/22/22 07:46, Takahiro Kuwano wrote:
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>>>> On 7/22/2022 1:20 PM, Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com wrote:
>>>>> On 7/22/22 07:00, Takahiro Kuwano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning, Takahiro!
>>>>>
>>>> Good morning, Tudor!
>>>>
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>>>>>> On 7/22/2022 1:06 AM, Tudor.Ambarus@microchip.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/23/22 10:49, Michael Walle wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Am 2022-05-14 05:51, schrieb Takahiro Kuwano:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 6:40 PM, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [btw the subject still has the old name of the addr_width]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it must be fixed in next rev.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 2022-05-13 03:26, schrieb Takahiro Kuwano:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2022 7:14 AM, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 2022-05-10 00:10, schrieb tkuw584924@gmail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Takahiro Kuwano <Takahiro.Kuwano@infineon.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In 4BAIT parse, keep nor->params->addr_width because it may be used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current address mode in SMPT parse later on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mh I'm not sure this is needed at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SFDP spec says
>>>>>>>>>>>> Variable address length (the current setting of the address
>>>>>>>>>>>> length mode defines the address length)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> When the length is defined as variable, the software or hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>> controlling the memory is aware of the address length mode last
>>>>>>>>>>>> set in the memory device and this same length of address.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't set any address mode until all the SFDP parsing is
>>>>>>>>>>>> over. Therefore we should always be in 3 byte mode, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually there are some devices that have variable address length but
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 byte mode by default (I will work on those devices after this
>>>>>>>>>>> series
>>>>>>>>>>> is settled). To support such case, I prefer to use
>>>>>>>>>>> params->addr_nbytes
>>>>>>>>>>> as current address mode so that I can fix it in post_bfpt_fixup()
>>>>>>>>>>> hook.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there public datasheets available? So these devices have a 3 byte
>>>>>>>>> I will send datasheets to you in another email. At this point, only
>>>>>>>>> summary datasheet is available in website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and a 4 byte mode, but after reset, they are in the 4 byte mode? Looks
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like it should be fixed in a different way. I'm not sure the "current
>>>>>>>>>> mode" handling is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, we may want to introduce a new flag like SPI_NOR_4BAM_DEFAULT and
>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> the flag in BFPT parse. Once I send another series, please review.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to differentiate between the mode the flash currently is using
>>>>>>>>>> (nor->addr_nbytes) and the mode parsed by SFDP (params->addr_nbytes).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The flash's address mode affects the address length of Non-4B opcodes,
>>>>>>>>> including read/write any register ops used in SMPT parse and Infineon
>>>>>>>>> (spansion) specific hooks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The 4B opcodes always take address length of 4 regardless of flash's
>>>>>>>>> address mode. In these Infineon chips, 4B opcodes for read/program/
>>>>>>>>> erase are available and 4BAIT advertises them. We don't have to enter
>>>>>>>>> 4 byte address mode for read/program/erase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btw. this is a pity. you are using the stateless 4b opcodes but
>>>>>>>> then you don't provide stateless opcodes for the read any register
>>>>>>>> op :/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I think we need to differentiate between address length for
>>>>>>>>> read/program/erase and flash's default address mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or we keep them in sync. E.g. switch to 4bytes mode if we are
>>>>>>>> using the 4 byte. Granted, that sounds like a hack :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously we are using nor->addr_nbytes as address length for read/
>>>>>>>>> program/erase and should keep this usage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I wasn't aware that we actually two different runtime
>>>>>>>> parameters:
>>>>>>>> - the read/program/erase address width, also used with the
>>>>>>>> 4b opcodes
>>>>>>>> - internal mode 3b/4b. Up until now, this wasn't an issue
>>>>>>>> because either the mode was switched or the 4b opcodes
>>>>>>>> were used. So this was mutually exclusive. Now we have
>>>>>>>> flashes which uses 4b opcodes _and_ we need the state
>>>>>>>> of the internal mode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't think of a good solution for now. Need to think
>>>>>>>> more about this, but I'm pretty busy at the moment.
>>>>>>>> What I think is clear is that we need two different modes
>>>>>>>> here in the spi_nor struct. nor->addr_nbytes for the
>>>>>>>> read/program/erase opcodes and nor->address_mode or similar
>>>>>>>> which tracks the SPI flash's internal address mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Takahiro,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we determine the flash's internal address mode by querying
>>>>>>> the flash at run-time? Is this possible on Semper flashes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> CFR2V[7] has current address mode, but to read that, we need to
>>>>>> issue Read Any Register which address length relies on current
>>>>>> address mode. Chicken-and-egg...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. What happens if we issue the Read Any Register command with
>>>>> the wrong address internal mode? Will I read just 0xff?
>>>>> For example try reading CFR2V[7] using addr_nbytes of value 3, and
>>>>> if it fails, to read it again but this time using addr_nbytes of
>>>>> value 4.
>>>>>
>>>> It's undetermined. In case we issue Read Any Register with 3B address,
>>>> the host controller outputs 4 bytes (opcode + address) then inputs
>>>> 1 byte. If the device is in 4B address mode at this time, the host
>>>> controller inputs the 1 byte while device is still waits for LSB of
>>>> address so IO is not driven by device.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if the IO lines are floating, we'll "read" whatever is indicated
>>> by the IOs at that specific moment of time, right?
>>>
>> Yes, right.
>>
>>> If so, we're forced to statically specify the default internal address
>>> mode.
>>>
>> Yes.
> OK, let me scratch something.
>
Would you please send me the datasheet for Semper flashes?
I noticed that the addr mode is controlled via a volatile conf register
in your case, but there are flashes like w25q256jv that control the
addr mode via a non-volatile register, so only a default value will
not empower flashes with NV register conf to actually toggle that bit.
We may introduce a dt prop for the NV case when needed, the disadvantage
being that the generic jedec,spi-nor will not be so generic, as it will
have a fixed default NV addr mode specified in dt.
--
Cheers,
ta
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2022-05-09 22:10 [PATCH v15 0/8] mtd: spi-nor: Add support for Infineon s25hl-t/s25hs-t tkuw584924
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 1/8] mtd: spi-nor: s/addr_width/addr_nbytes tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:01 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:13 ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 2/8] mtd: spi-nor: core: Shrink the storage size of the flash_info's addr_nbytes tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:22 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:14 ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 3/8] mtd: spi-nor: sfdp: Clarify that nor->read_{opcode, dummy} are uninitialized tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:33 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-12 21:38 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:18 ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 4/8] mtd: spi-nor: Do not change nor->addr_nbytes at SFDP parsing time tkuw584924
2022-05-12 21:45 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-31 11:30 ` Pratyush Yadav
2022-07-21 14:32 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-21 15:02 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 5/8] mtd: spi-nor: core: Couple the number of address bytes with the address mode tkuw584924
2022-05-12 22:07 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 6/8] mtd: spi-nor: Retain nor->addr_width at 4BAIT parse tkuw584924
2022-05-12 22:14 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-13 1:26 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-13 9:40 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-14 3:51 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-18 6:04 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-18 8:35 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-18 9:12 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-05-23 7:49 ` Michael Walle
2022-05-23 9:56 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-06-03 9:33 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-21 16:06 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22 4:00 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22 4:20 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22 4:31 ` Vanessa Page
2022-07-22 4:46 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22 5:06 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22 5:11 ` Takahiro Kuwano
2022-07-22 6:08 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-07-22 7:38 ` Tudor.Ambarus [this message]
2022-07-22 7:45 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-06-08 11:39 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 7/8] mtd: spi-nor: spansion: Add local function to discover page size tkuw584924
2022-05-09 22:10 ` [PATCH v15 8/8] mtd: spi-nor: spansion: Add s25hl-t/s25hs-t IDs and fixups tkuw584924
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