* Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash @ 2022-05-18 12:32 Paul Barker 2022-05-23 8:31 ` Michael Walle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Paul Barker @ 2022-05-18 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Michael Walle, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd Cc: Stuart Rubin [-- Attachment #1.1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2031 bytes --] Hi, We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. Since we're using the MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would like to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which approach is preferred: 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a device which does not implement them. 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined in mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which can potentially handle vendor specific commands. 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported by the MMC driver. My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mtd/20211027103352.8879-1-sshivamurthy@micron.com/T/ Regards, -- Paul Barker Principal Software Engineer SanCloud Ltd e: paul.barker@sancloud.com w: https://sancloud.com/ [-- Attachment #1.1.1.2: OpenPGP public key --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 7645 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 236 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 144 bytes --] ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash 2022-05-18 12:32 Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash Paul Barker @ 2022-05-23 8:31 ` Michael Walle 2022-05-23 10:02 ` Paul Barker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Walle @ 2022-05-23 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Barker Cc: Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd, Stuart Rubin Hi, Am 2022-05-18 14:32, schrieb Paul Barker: > We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to > Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. Please elaborate a bit more on the use case. Is this something specific to the flash or is it more of a general feature? > Since we're using the > MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need > to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. > > I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would like > to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which > approach is preferred: > > 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor > specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in > October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was > made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless > of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or > -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a > device which does not implement them. > > 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. > When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined in > mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which > can potentially handle vendor specific commands. > > 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This > would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific > command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the > vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel > would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes > over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported > by the MMC driver. > > My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of > the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this > though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. I'm not sure we should allow a generic "issue anything to the spi flash". It it is just a one time thing, like for example, program a password during production, or program non-volatile memory during production of the board, I'm fine with it. Most probably, calling that ioctl will also call add_taint(). This will also need to go with proper userspace util support. But if it is something for general use, please provide a proper API and don't write userspace drivers. -michael ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash 2022-05-23 8:31 ` Michael Walle @ 2022-05-23 10:02 ` Paul Barker 2022-05-23 11:25 ` Michael Walle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Paul Barker @ 2022-05-23 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Walle Cc: Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd, Stuart Rubin [-- Attachment #1.1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5299 bytes --] On 23/05/2022 09:31, Michael Walle wrote: > Hi, > > Am 2022-05-18 14:32, schrieb Paul Barker: >> We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to >> Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. > > Please elaborate a bit more on the use case. Is this something specific > to the flash or is it more of a general feature? The Authenta flash devices support two groups of vendor-specific commands: 1) "Advanced Sector Protection" commands, common to several Micron parts. These include volatile & non-volatile lock bits, password protection and a global freeze bit. 2) "Authenticated Core Root of Trust for Measurement (A-CRTM)" commands, specific to Authenta flash devices. These include authenticated write operations where the data to be written must be signed with a cryptographic key and measurement operations which allow remote attestation of the contents of the flash. These features interact with the cloud-based Authenta Key Management Service (KMS) provided by Micron and user-controlled cryptographic keys can also be supported for these devices. To make use of these features vendor-specific commands are sent to the flash device. We expect to send these commands during the boot process and during the process of securely deploying a new software image to the flash device. Brief information on the Authenta features is available as a PDF [1]. [1]: https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/mt25q_a_crtm_rpmc_addendum_rev_1_6_brief.pdf > >> Since we're using the >> MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need >> to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. >> >> I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would like >> to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which >> approach is preferred: >> >> 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor >> specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in >> October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was >> made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless >> of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or >> -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a >> device which does not implement them. >> >> 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. >> When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined in >> mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which >> can potentially handle vendor specific commands. >> >> 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This >> would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific >> command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the >> vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel >> would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes >> over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported >> by the MMC driver. >> >> My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of >> the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this >> though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. > > I'm not sure we should allow a generic "issue anything to the spi > flash". It it is just a one time thing, like for example, program > a password during production, or program non-volatile memory during > production of the board, I'm fine with it. Most probably, calling > that ioctl will also call add_taint(). This will also need to go > with proper userspace util support. > > But if it is something for general use, please provide a proper API > and don't write userspace drivers. I've been looking at how the eMMC/SD and NVMe drivers support passing through vendor specific commands using MMC_IOC_CMD for eMMC/SD and NVME_IOCTL_ADMIN_CMD/NVME_IOCTL_IO_CMD for NVMe. Neither of these ioctl handlers appear to call add_taint(). For A-CRTM operations, in our current use case the command bytes to be sent over the SPI bus to the flash device are sent from a cloud-based service to a userspace agent on the device. The agent simply needs a way to pass these command bytes over the SPI bus to the device and retrieve the sequence of response bytes to send back to the cloud-based service. For this we could use either a generic SPI transfer IOCTL or a Micron specific A-CRTM command IOCTL. For the Advanced Sector Protection commands we can add IOCTLs for each command if that's the preferred approach. The command list can be seen on page 35 of the datasheet for the MT25QL02GCBB spi-nor flash device [2] and on other Micron flash device datasheets. [2]: https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/die-rev-b/mt25q_qlkt_l_02g_cbb_0.pdf We're happy to look at extending libmtd and/or mtd-utils to wrap any IOCTLs added to the drivers. Would that provide the proper API you're looking for? Thanks, -- Paul Barker Principal Software Engineer SanCloud Ltd e: paul.barker@sancloud.com w: https://sancloud.com/ [-- Attachment #1.1.1.2: OpenPGP public key --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 7645 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 236 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 144 bytes --] ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash 2022-05-23 10:02 ` Paul Barker @ 2022-05-23 11:25 ` Michael Walle 2022-06-07 13:50 ` Paul Barker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Walle @ 2022-05-23 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Barker, linux-integrity, linux-security-module Cc: Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd, Stuart Rubin [+ linux-security-module, linux-integrity, sorry if these are the wrong MLs, but I don't have any experiences with crypto] Am 2022-05-23 12:02, schrieb Paul Barker: > On 23/05/2022 09:31, Michael Walle wrote: >> Am 2022-05-18 14:32, schrieb Paul Barker: >>> We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to >>> Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. >> >> Please elaborate a bit more on the use case. Is this something >> specific >> to the flash or is it more of a general feature? > > The Authenta flash devices support two groups of vendor-specific > commands: > > 1) "Advanced Sector Protection" commands, common to several Micron > parts. These include volatile & non-volatile lock bits, password > protection and a global freeze bit. Parts of that isn't really specific to Micron, is it? Sounds like a per sector locking. AFAIR Tudor was working on advanced sector protection. > 2) "Authenticated Core Root of Trust for Measurement (A-CRTM)" > commands, specific to Authenta flash devices. These include > authenticated write operations where the data to be written must be > signed with a cryptographic key and measurement operations which allow > remote attestation of the contents of the flash. These features > interact with the cloud-based Authenta Key Management Service (KMS) > provided by Micron and user-controlled cryptographic keys can also be > supported for these devices. > > To make use of these features vendor-specific commands are sent to the > flash device. We expect to send these commands during the boot process > and during the process of securely deploying a new software image to > the flash device. > > Brief information on the Authenta features is available as a PDF [1]. > > [1]: > https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/mt25q_a_crtm_rpmc_addendum_rev_1_6_brief.pdf > > >> >>> Since we're using the >>> MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need >>> to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. >>> >>> I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would >>> like >>> to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which >>> approach is preferred: >>> >>> 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor >>> specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in >>> October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was >>> made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless >>> of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or >>> -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a >>> device which does not implement them. >>> >>> 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. >>> When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined >>> in >>> mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which >>> can potentially handle vendor specific commands. >>> >>> 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This >>> would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific >>> command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the >>> vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel >>> would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes >>> over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported >>> by the MMC driver. >>> >>> My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of >>> the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this >>> though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. >> >> I'm not sure we should allow a generic "issue anything to the spi >> flash". It it is just a one time thing, like for example, program >> a password during production, or program non-volatile memory during >> production of the board, I'm fine with it. Most probably, calling >> that ioctl will also call add_taint(). This will also need to go >> with proper userspace util support. >> >> But if it is something for general use, please provide a proper API >> and don't write userspace drivers. > > I've been looking at how the eMMC/SD and NVMe drivers support passing > through vendor specific commands using MMC_IOC_CMD for eMMC/SD and > NVME_IOCTL_ADMIN_CMD/NVME_IOCTL_IO_CMD for NVMe. Neither of these > ioctl handlers appear to call add_taint(). I don't know the use case for MMC/NVMe, but until you convince me otherwise, I see "sending raw commands to the SPI flash" as something exceptional, and thus you'd taint the kernel. > For A-CRTM operations, in our current use case the command bytes to be > sent over the SPI bus to the flash device are sent from a cloud-based > service to a userspace agent on the device. The agent simply needs a > way to pass these command bytes over the SPI bus to the device and > retrieve the sequence of response bytes to send back to the > cloud-based service. For this we could use either a generic SPI > transfer IOCTL or a Micron specific A-CRTM command IOCTL. > > For the Advanced Sector Protection commands we can add IOCTLs for each > command if that's the preferred approach. The command list can be seen > on page 35 of the datasheet for the MT25QL02GCBB spi-nor flash device > [2] and on other Micron flash device datasheets. This doesn't sound like a proper abstraction to me. Again, the per sector lock protection should be integrated into the current locking ioctls. Regarding the security commands, I'm afraid I can't help you on that point, but it sounds like bypassing the kernel is the wrong thing to do. -michael > > [2]: > https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/die-rev-b/mt25q_qlkt_l_02g_cbb_0.pdf > > We're happy to look at extending libmtd and/or mtd-utils to wrap any > IOCTLs added to the drivers. Would that provide the proper API you're > looking for? > > Thanks, ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash 2022-05-23 11:25 ` Michael Walle @ 2022-06-07 13:50 ` Paul Barker 2022-06-20 9:12 ` Paul Barker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Paul Barker @ 2022-06-07 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Walle, linux-integrity, linux-security-module Cc: Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd, Stuart Rubin Hi Michael, folks, Apologies for the slow follow-up, I was ill over the last week of May & start of June. On 23/05/2022 12:25, Michael Walle wrote: > [+ linux-security-module, linux-integrity, sorry if these are the > wrong MLs, but I don't have any experiences with crypto] > > Am 2022-05-23 12:02, schrieb Paul Barker: >> On 23/05/2022 09:31, Michael Walle wrote: >>> Am 2022-05-18 14:32, schrieb Paul Barker: >>>> We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to >>>> Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. >>> >>> Please elaborate a bit more on the use case. Is this something specific >>> to the flash or is it more of a general feature? >> >> The Authenta flash devices support two groups of vendor-specific >> commands: >> >> 1) "Advanced Sector Protection" commands, common to several Micron >> parts. These include volatile & non-volatile lock bits, password >> protection and a global freeze bit. > > Parts of that isn't really specific to Micron, is it? Sounds like > a per sector locking. AFAIR Tudor was working on advanced sector > protection. I see your point here. The implementation may be Micron specific but there are probably ways to improve the generic locking APIs to cover these features. I'm happy to look at what Tudor was working on, have any patches been posted for this? I've searched the mailing list history for the past few months but can't find any. > >> 2) "Authenticated Core Root of Trust for Measurement (A-CRTM)" >> commands, specific to Authenta flash devices. These include >> authenticated write operations where the data to be written must be >> signed with a cryptographic key and measurement operations which allow >> remote attestation of the contents of the flash. These features >> interact with the cloud-based Authenta Key Management Service (KMS) >> provided by Micron and user-controlled cryptographic keys can also be >> supported for these devices. >> >> To make use of these features vendor-specific commands are sent to the >> flash device. We expect to send these commands during the boot process >> and during the process of securely deploying a new software image to >> the flash device. >> >> Brief information on the Authenta features is available as a PDF [1]. >> >> [1]: >> https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/mt25q_a_crtm_rpmc_addendum_rev_1_6_brief.pdf >> >> >> >>> >>>> Since we're using the >>>> MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need >>>> to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. >>>> >>>> I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would like >>>> to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which >>>> approach is preferred: >>>> >>>> 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor >>>> specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in >>>> October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was >>>> made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless >>>> of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or >>>> -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a >>>> device which does not implement them. >>>> >>>> 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. >>>> When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined in >>>> mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which >>>> can potentially handle vendor specific commands. >>>> >>>> 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This >>>> would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific >>>> command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the >>>> vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel >>>> would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes >>>> over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported >>>> by the MMC driver. >>>> >>>> My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of >>>> the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this >>>> though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. >>> >>> I'm not sure we should allow a generic "issue anything to the spi >>> flash". It it is just a one time thing, like for example, program >>> a password during production, or program non-volatile memory during >>> production of the board, I'm fine with it. Most probably, calling >>> that ioctl will also call add_taint(). This will also need to go >>> with proper userspace util support. >>> >>> But if it is something for general use, please provide a proper API >>> and don't write userspace drivers. >> >> I've been looking at how the eMMC/SD and NVMe drivers support passing >> through vendor specific commands using MMC_IOC_CMD for eMMC/SD and >> NVME_IOCTL_ADMIN_CMD/NVME_IOCTL_IO_CMD for NVMe. Neither of these >> ioctl handlers appear to call add_taint(). > > I don't know the use case for MMC/NVMe, but until you convince me > otherwise, I see "sending raw commands to the SPI flash" as something > exceptional, and thus you'd taint the kernel. Looking at https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.html, I can't see any taint flag (tainted state bit) that would apply for the case when raw commands are sent to a hardware device. I may be misunderstanding something though - which tainted state bit would be set by this operation? > >> For A-CRTM operations, in our current use case the command bytes to be >> sent over the SPI bus to the flash device are sent from a cloud-based >> service to a userspace agent on the device. The agent simply needs a >> way to pass these command bytes over the SPI bus to the device and >> retrieve the sequence of response bytes to send back to the >> cloud-based service. For this we could use either a generic SPI >> transfer IOCTL or a Micron specific A-CRTM command IOCTL. >> >> For the Advanced Sector Protection commands we can add IOCTLs for each >> command if that's the preferred approach. The command list can be seen >> on page 35 of the datasheet for the MT25QL02GCBB spi-nor flash device >> [2] and on other Micron flash device datasheets. > > This doesn't sound like a proper abstraction to me. Again, the per > sector lock protection should be integrated into the current locking > ioctls. Regarding the security commands, I'm afraid I can't help > you on that point, but it sounds like bypassing the kernel is the > wrong thing to do. For the Advanced Sector Protection commands I can look into extending the existing IOCTLs if that's the preferred approach. For the A-CRTM operations, these don't fit well into the existing APIs. Furthermore, for several of these operations the bytes sent over the SPI bus consist of a message block (including an opcode/sub-opcode and any arguments) followed by a HMAC signature of the message block. The signing key for this HMAC is typically kept off the device itself (e.g. in an on-site server or a cloud-based Key Management System). This means that the sequence of bytes to be sent over the SPI bus is typically produced by a system which has access to the signing key and is then sent to the target device to be relayed over the SPI bus to the Authenta flash device. The kernel running on a system with an Authenta flash device is typically not in a position to construct and sign the sequence of bytes to be sent over the SPI bus for A-CRTM commands. So, I think the best API for A-CRTM operations would be a pair of vendor-specific IOCTLs, WR_CRTM_CMD and RD_CRTM_CMD, which each take an array of bytes, including any HMAC signature, to be sent over the SPI bus to the Authenta flash device. These would check the opcode/sub-opcode to ensure that they represent a valid A-CRTM command and for RD_CRTM_CMD to also check that this is an A-CRTM command that does not modify the device state or flash contents. Thus WR_CRTM_CMD requires the device to be opened for writing, RD_CRTM_CMD only requires the device to be opened for reading. Once the opcode/sub-opcode has been checked the command would be sent to the Authenta flash device and the response sent back to userspace. Thanks, -- Paul Barker Principal Software Engineer SanCloud Ltd e: paul.barker@sancloud.com w: https://sancloud.com/ ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending vendor specific commands to spi-nor flash 2022-06-07 13:50 ` Paul Barker @ 2022-06-20 9:12 ` Paul Barker 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Paul Barker @ 2022-06-20 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Walle, Tudor Ambarus, Pratyush Yadav, Miquel Raynal, Richard Weinberger, Vignesh Raghavendra, linux-mtd Cc: Stuart Rubin, linux-integrity, linux-security-module [-- Attachment #1.1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 9554 bytes --] On 07/06/2022 14:50, Paul Barker wrote: > Hi Michael, folks, > > Apologies for the slow follow-up, I was ill over the last week of May & > start of June. > > On 23/05/2022 12:25, Michael Walle wrote: >> [+ linux-security-module, linux-integrity, sorry if these are the >> wrong MLs, but I don't have any experiences with crypto] >> >> Am 2022-05-23 12:02, schrieb Paul Barker: >>> On 23/05/2022 09:31, Michael Walle wrote: >>>> Am 2022-05-18 14:32, schrieb Paul Barker: >>>>> We're looking to add support for sending vendor specific commands to >>>>> Micron Authenta flash devices over the SPI bus. >>>> >>>> Please elaborate a bit more on the use case. Is this something specific >>>> to the flash or is it more of a general feature? >>> >>> The Authenta flash devices support two groups of vendor-specific >>> commands: >>> >>> 1) "Advanced Sector Protection" commands, common to several Micron >>> parts. These include volatile & non-volatile lock bits, password >>> protection and a global freeze bit. >> >> Parts of that isn't really specific to Micron, is it? Sounds like >> a per sector locking. AFAIR Tudor was working on advanced sector >> protection. > > I see your point here. The implementation may be Micron specific but > there are probably ways to improve the generic locking APIs to cover > these features. > > I'm happy to look at what Tudor was working on, have any patches been > posted for this? I've searched the mailing list history for the past few > months but can't find any. > >> >>> 2) "Authenticated Core Root of Trust for Measurement (A-CRTM)" >>> commands, specific to Authenta flash devices. These include >>> authenticated write operations where the data to be written must be >>> signed with a cryptographic key and measurement operations which allow >>> remote attestation of the contents of the flash. These features >>> interact with the cloud-based Authenta Key Management Service (KMS) >>> provided by Micron and user-controlled cryptographic keys can also be >>> supported for these devices. >>> >>> To make use of these features vendor-specific commands are sent to the >>> flash device. We expect to send these commands during the boot process >>> and during the process of securely deploying a new software image to >>> the flash device. >>> >>> Brief information on the Authenta features is available as a PDF [1]. >>> >>> [1]: >>> https://media-www.micron.com/-/media/client/global/documents/products/data-sheet/nor-flash/serial-nor/mt25q/mt25q_a_crtm_rpmc_addendum_rev_1_6_brief.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Since we're using the >>>>> MTD block interface to support a filesystem on the SPI flash we need >>>>> to send these vendor specific commands via some sort of IOCTL. >>>>> >>>>> I can see a couple of ways to achieve this (as follows) and would like >>>>> to get some feedback from the MTD & spi-nor maintainers on which >>>>> approach is preferred: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Add new IOCTLs to the mtdchar device to support these vendor >>>>> specific operations. An initial set of patches was sent back in >>>>> October 2021 which took this route [1], but no further progress was >>>>> made. The new IOCTLs would exist for all mtdchar devices (regardless >>>>> of vendor) if we go this route and we'd need to ensure -EINVAL or >>>>> -ENOTSUPP is returned as appropriate if these IOCTLs are called on a >>>>> device which does not implement them. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Add a vendor-specific IOCTL layer to the mtdchar device interface. >>>>> When the mtdchar IOCTL handler is called with a command not defined in >>>>> mtdchar.c, pass the call on to a device-specific IOCTL handler which >>>>> can potentially handle vendor specific commands. >>>>> >>>>> 3) Add a generic SPI transfer IOCTL for spi-nor MTD devices. This >>>>> would avoid the need to define IOCTLs for every vendor specific >>>>> command supported by SPI flash devices. Instead, knowledge of the >>>>> vendor specific commands would be kept in userspace and the kernel >>>>> would simply provide an API for sending & receiving arbitrary bytes >>>>> over the SPI bus. This is similar to the MMC_IOC_CMD IOCTL supported >>>>> by the MMC driver. >>>>> >>>>> My preference would be for option (3) since it minimizes the scope of >>>>> the changes we need to make in the kernel. We're not tied to this >>>>> though, so let us know if a different option is preferred. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure we should allow a generic "issue anything to the spi >>>> flash". It it is just a one time thing, like for example, program >>>> a password during production, or program non-volatile memory during >>>> production of the board, I'm fine with it. Most probably, calling >>>> that ioctl will also call add_taint(). This will also need to go >>>> with proper userspace util support. >>>> >>>> But if it is something for general use, please provide a proper API >>>> and don't write userspace drivers. >>> >>> I've been looking at how the eMMC/SD and NVMe drivers support passing >>> through vendor specific commands using MMC_IOC_CMD for eMMC/SD and >>> NVME_IOCTL_ADMIN_CMD/NVME_IOCTL_IO_CMD for NVMe. Neither of these >>> ioctl handlers appear to call add_taint(). >> >> I don't know the use case for MMC/NVMe, but until you convince me >> otherwise, I see "sending raw commands to the SPI flash" as something >> exceptional, and thus you'd taint the kernel. > > Looking at https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.html, I > can't see any taint flag (tainted state bit) that would apply for the > case when raw commands are sent to a hardware device. I may be > misunderstanding something though - which tainted state bit would be set > by this operation? > >> >>> For A-CRTM operations, in our current use case the command bytes to be >>> sent over the SPI bus to the flash device are sent from a cloud-based >>> service to a userspace agent on the device. The agent simply needs a >>> way to pass these command bytes over the SPI bus to the device and >>> retrieve the sequence of response bytes to send back to the >>> cloud-based service. For this we could use either a generic SPI >>> transfer IOCTL or a Micron specific A-CRTM command IOCTL. >>> >>> For the Advanced Sector Protection commands we can add IOCTLs for each >>> command if that's the preferred approach. The command list can be seen >>> on page 35 of the datasheet for the MT25QL02GCBB spi-nor flash device >>> [2] and on other Micron flash device datasheets. >> >> This doesn't sound like a proper abstraction to me. Again, the per >> sector lock protection should be integrated into the current locking >> ioctls. Regarding the security commands, I'm afraid I can't help >> you on that point, but it sounds like bypassing the kernel is the >> wrong thing to do. > > For the Advanced Sector Protection commands I can look into extending > the existing IOCTLs if that's the preferred approach. > > For the A-CRTM operations, these don't fit well into the existing APIs. > Furthermore, for several of these operations the bytes sent over the SPI > bus consist of a message block (including an opcode/sub-opcode and any > arguments) followed by a HMAC signature of the message block. The > signing key for this HMAC is typically kept off the device itself (e.g. > in an on-site server or a cloud-based Key Management System). This means > that the sequence of bytes to be sent over the SPI bus is typically > produced by a system which has access to the signing key and is then > sent to the target device to be relayed over the SPI bus to the Authenta > flash device. The kernel running on a system with an Authenta flash > device is typically not in a position to construct and sign the sequence > of bytes to be sent over the SPI bus for A-CRTM commands. > > So, I think the best API for A-CRTM operations would be a pair of > vendor-specific IOCTLs, WR_CRTM_CMD and RD_CRTM_CMD, which each take an > array of bytes, including any HMAC signature, to be sent over the SPI > bus to the Authenta flash device. These would check the > opcode/sub-opcode to ensure that they represent a valid A-CRTM command > and for RD_CRTM_CMD to also check that this is an A-CRTM command that > does not modify the device state or flash contents. Thus WR_CRTM_CMD > requires the device to be opened for writing, RD_CRTM_CMD only requires > the device to be opened for reading. Once the opcode/sub-opcode has been > checked the command would be sent to the Authenta flash device and the > response sent back to userspace. I'd like to start moving things forward here. I think the best place to start is going to be to send an initial RFC patch series for the changes to drivers/mtd/spi-nor/micron-st.c to add wrapper functions for the Advanced Sector Protection & A-CRTM commands, and add appropriate entries to micron_nor_parts. That will hopefully improve the context and we can continue to discuss what is an appropriate API for exposing these commands to the user space service which needs to invoke them (to perform actions such as initiating a cryptographic measurement, deriving a secret key based on a measurement or securely updating a bootloader image in the flash). If anyone has any further thoughts at this stage please let us know. Regards, -- Paul Barker Principal Software Engineer SanCloud Ltd e: paul.barker@sancloud.com w: https://sancloud.com/ [-- Attachment #1.1.1.2: OpenPGP public key --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 7645 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 236 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 144 bytes --] ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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