From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from post2.inre.asu.edu ([129.219.110.73]) by pentafluge.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 175qEz-0007gb-00 for ; Thu, 09 May 2002 16:54:01 +0100 Received: from conversion.post2.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1 #40111) id <0GVU00H01PHN6P@asu.edu> for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 09 May 2002 08:53:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 08:54:07 -0700 From: Russ Dill Subject: Re: Boot from DoC2000 In-reply-to: <001e01c1f73d$8a53ad90$9702a8c0@maverick> To: Darren Martz Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org Message-id: <1020959648.30841.3590.camel@russ> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <001e01c1f73d$8a53ad90$9702a8c0@maverick> Sender: linux-mtd-admin@lists.infradead.org Errors-To: linux-mtd-admin@lists.infradead.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 02:40, Darren Martz wrote: > I'm new to linux, so my questions may seem rather simplistic > > Sorry for the multiple questions, I have read most of the papers and > many of the posting on this list but these are missing pieces... > > It seems the m-sys driver adds logic to the bios gaining access to the > DoC. The mtd solution everyone is working so hard on seems to do things > differently, but I'm not sure how or what. I am also unclear as to what > boot loaders support this new way to boot an mtd device. I understand > grub is designed to support that scenario but is still in development. > Does the lilo solution rely on the m-sys patch? > > I suppose a boot loader like grub is required because the bios doesn't > support native access to the device(s). > > So what filesystem options are there? I know that m-sys has their own > "TrueFFS" fs, and it requires a kernel patch. Being new to linux, I'd > like to stay away from that for the time being. I have read about jffs1 > and jffs2, and from what I can tell jffs1 is stable but lacking the nice > features, while jffs2 is very much experimental but coming along nicely. > > Knowing all that, the options seem to be as follows: > > 1) LILO plus an m-sys patch with the TrueFFS or any other filesystem > 2) GRUB with any filesystem including JFFS, but not TrueFFS > 3) SYSLINUX ??? i suspect is not supported > > I believe I read that to date, nobody has had a successful boot on a DoC > with grub - yet! > So does that leave the only current option as LILO with the m-sys patch? look at the mailing list archives, grub works great on a DOC. jffs2 (or jffs) is not ready for use on a DOC, but its close, so you'd have to use a standard filesystem on top of NFTL. actually, syslinux works fine with the original m-sys "firmware"