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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: jffs2 simplifications
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:13:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1105369990.5698.95.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050110145154.GC12520@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>

On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 15:51 +0100, Jörn Engel wrote:
> Exactly.  Anything other than functional code makes it hard to read
> and even harder to change.  So the chances of introducing bugs are
> much higher.  In a way, the debug code is needed because of the debug
> code itself.
> 
> Sure, it also serves a real purpose and not having any debug code
> requires programmers that don't cause bugs.  So it is a necessary
> evil.  The real art is to get by with as little debug code as
> possible, yet have enough data to easily find any problems.

I don't really see how printks make the code harder to read. You can
probably convince your editor to hide them from you automatically if
they really offend you.

I prefer to optimise for the common case -- which is the _user_ not the
developer. The level of verbosity if you enable CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG is
high, but it means that I can take a log from a clueless end-user and
see precisely what's going on. I can look at a log from someone who's
having problems, see precisely what's happening, and provide a patch in
reply. While there are certainly some printks which can go, and even
more could be demoted to level 2 from level 1 (which is all that's ever
really useful), I wouldn't want to see it completely stripped of
debugging output. Not unless you want to take over the task of
supporting users ;)

-- 
dwmw2

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-10 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-08 21:18 jffs2 simplifications Jörn Engel
2005-01-08 21:21 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-10 14:29   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-09 12:03 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-10 14:51   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-10 15:13     ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2005-01-10 15:58       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-11 12:29       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy

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