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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: paul@mawsonlakes.org
Cc: "proclus@gnu-darwin.org" <proclus@gnu-darwin.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [Sfd] FOSS, Science, and Public activism
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:05:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1157807152.2977.87.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc9bf44d0609071533r10bc5c5cl940088ead9669c4f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:03 +0930, Paul Schulz wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> On 7/2/06, proclus@gnu-darwin.org <proclus@gnu-darwin.org> wrote:
> > It is important to alert the whole FOSS community that Darwin
> > cannot be classified as a free or open source operation system
> > as of the Darwin-8 revision, because AppleACPIplatform-39 which
> > is required to boot the system is proprietary.  It is notable that
> > only the current version of Darwin from Apple is a non-free OS.
> > GNU-Darwin has a free version, an earlier revision that includes
> > the source code.  It is FOSS, and we call upon Apple to maintain
> > Darwin as such, as it has been in the past.  We hope that the
> > current situation with the kernel and ACPI driver will soon be
> > remedied so that Darwin will continue as a FOSS OS.

If it's only ACPI, does it really matter? ACPI exists mostly for the
same reason as proprietary kernel modules -- to allow manufacturers to
obscure the details of the hardware.

Instead of having a free interpreter which runs their proprietary
bytecode in kernel mode, you have a closed interpreter which runs their
proprietary bytecode in kernel mode.

I would argue that even if your interpreter was open source, once you
submitted to using ACPI you'd already lost the Free Software game.

-- 
dwmw2

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-09 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060701220824.1EC396B0FDD@gnu-darwin.org>
2006-09-07 22:33 ` [Sfd] FOSS, Science, and Public activism Paul Schulz
2006-09-09 13:05   ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2006-09-09 22:26   ` Justin Clacherty

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