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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@infradead.org>
To: Urs Muff <urs_muff@trimble.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	Eric Holmberg <Eric_Holmberg@trimble.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Subject: RE: UBIFS Corrupt during power failure
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:51:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1246855913.20721.287.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246854654.20721.271.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 07:30 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 17:58 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 08:47 -0600, Urs Muff wrote:
> > > I can't find the data-sheet reference to that, but I would not characterize it as 'erasing from the end'.
> > > 
> > > As far as I understand it is a 2 phase process, and you can lose power at any point so you can see a partial phase I or a partial phase II state.
> > > - phase I: set all data to 00: a partial picture would be to see 00 at the beginning and random at the end of the block
> > > - phase II: set all data to FF: a partial picture would be to see FF at the beginning and 00 at the end of the block
> > 
> > That would be nice, because then UBI would work fine, since it would
> > notice corrupted EC header at the beginning, and would drop the PEB.
> > 
> > > From looking at your dumps, it appears that you got interrupted during
> > > phase II.  I'm not sure why you still have the header, but that might
> > > be b/c the block has been reclaimed / reinitialized (I'm not familiar
> > > with the actual code, but it appears that way from the dump).
> > 
> > No, I believe it was not reinitialized.
> > 
> > But I should write a small test program which writes a known pattern to
> > PEBs, then erases them, and sees what happened to them after an unclean
> > reboot.
> 
> [CCed Nicolas Pitre]
> 
> OK, I've written a small user-space program which first fills the NOR
> flash with an '0x89ABCDEF' pattern, then starts erasing it, and then
> I cut the power at random point.
> 
> And unfortunately the power cut results in eraseblocks which have
> 0x89ABCDEF at the beginning, and all zeroes at the end. I've attached
> one example.
> 
> So it indeed looks like NOR erasure includes writing zeroes from the
> end. Unfortunately UBI/UBIFS cannot handle this correctly ATM.

Although I can easily fix this by writing few zeroes at the beginning of
the eraseblock _before) erasing it, so that UBI will be happy. But it is
still interesting whether I may just ask NOR to amend it's embedded
erase algorithm.

-- 
Best regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Битюцкий Артём)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-06  4:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 13:45 UBIFS Corrupt during power failure Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 15:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-03-24 17:04   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 18:16     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-25  6:32     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26  6:59     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26 14:09       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-30 19:00         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-31 14:45           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 12:25           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 14:27             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 15:17               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 15:49                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 17:00                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 17:11                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 18:33                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14  6:11                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:09                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14 15:45                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:53                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 18:00                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15  6:00                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 15:17                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:09                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 16:12                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 16:32                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 18:26                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 18:38                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 19:33                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 20:15                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 20:46                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16  5:51                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16  5:46                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16 21:34                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17  8:56                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 13:51                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17 14:36                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 23:49                                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-15  7:16                                                 ` Stefan Roese
2009-05-18 17:30                                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-19  8:18                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-19 22:16                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-25  8:38                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:54                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:57                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:26                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:29                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:33                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:05                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 14:47                                                                 ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:58                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:30                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:51                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2009-07-06  6:43                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  6:46                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  7:05                                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-13 18:22                                                                             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-14  5:34                                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:52                                                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-15 21:35                                                                                 ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-16  7:33                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24  6:49                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 12:00                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 13:39                                                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-24 14:55                                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 14:05                                                                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 14:09                                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:09                                                                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 16:49                                                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-17  7:07                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:55                                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-15 21:36                                                                         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-15 22:09                                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:22                                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:16                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 20:54                                                                             ` Gilles Casse
2009-07-17  0:29                                                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-07-24 14:08                                                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:14                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:08                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:25                                                     ` Stefan Roese
2009-06-03 13:50                                                     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-06-07 10:16                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-28 12:01                                                         ` news
2009-07-28 12:24                                                           ` Adrian Hunter
2009-07-28 17:19                                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-08-09  4:59                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17  8:58                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy

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