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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
Cc: "Kreuzer, Michael \(NSN - DE/Ulm\)" <michael.kreuzer@nsn.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"Matthew L. Creech" <mlcreech@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ubi_eba_init_scan: cannot reserve enough PEBs
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:04:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282489456.16502.74.camel@brekeke> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1280296009.4310.5.camel@wall-e.seibold.net>

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 07:46 +0200, Stefani Seibold wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 27.07.2010, 18:21 +0300 schrieb Artem Bityutskiy:
> > On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 18:12 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> > > This really does not look like a NAND/MTD driver issue. More look like
> > > either an UBIFS bug of some kind of corruption which corrupted an EC or
> > > VID header, then UBI decided to erase this PEB, and then UBIFS reads all
> > > 0xFFs from there.
> > > 
> > > The second theory should BTW be fixed. Indeed, when UBI finds a PEB with
> > > corrupted headers, it adds this PEB to the 'corr' list, and then just
> > > erases. But this is wrong! It should erase them only if there are all
> > > 0xFFs in the rest of the block.
> > 
> > Yeah, indeed looks like a bad bug in UBI. So, when we have some flash
> > corruptions which corrupt the VID header, UBI just silently erases this
> > PEB! And then we have small chances to find out why on LEB suddenly
> > became unmapped (erased).
> > 
> > UBI logic is - if VID header is corrupted, it is because a sudden power
> > cut while writing the header. And we can erase the PEB because if we
> > were writing the header, we have not written the data yet.
> > 
> > But it does not bother checking what goes _after_ the header. If there
> > are some data, UBI should not erase the PEB but preserve it and switch
> > to R/O mode.
> > 
> > CCing Stefani, I think here group faced a similar issue recently - one
> > of LEB suddenly disappeared. This may be the reason.
> > 
> > Then the other question - why VID became corrupted? Dunno, but if UBI
> > won't erase the PEB we'll have better chances to find this out. Does
> > this sound reasonable?
> > 
> 
> Not really. Why should especially the master LEB crash?

Not sure, may be there is some reason. Dunno, that was just a thought.

> First: As i understand UBIFS will append data to the master LEBs until
> no space is free, and then it will erase the master LEB and create a new
> one. Is this right?

Yes.

> Second: We need a kind of the patch which i had provided i the case one
> of the master block will be damaged. Otherwise the whole file system is
> garbage.

Yes, but your patch fixes the symptom, unfortunately. It is ok for you
to use as a work-around, but I still hope to find the root cause.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-22 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22 18:37 ubi_eba_init_scan: cannot reserve enough PEBs Matthew L. Creech
2010-07-26  5:21 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-26 21:13   ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-07-27 15:12     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-27 15:21       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-28  5:46         ` Stefani Seibold
2010-08-22 15:04           ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2010-08-31 12:09             ` Stefani Seibold
2010-09-01 15:47               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-09-02  6:47                 ` Stefani Seibold
2010-09-02  9:45                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-08-22 15:02         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-27 20:47       ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-07-30 16:12         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-30 17:51           ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-08-02  4:22             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-08-22 18:30       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-08-24 22:38         ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-08-25  3:51           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-08-31 15:36           ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-09-01 18:57             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-09-06  9:17               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-09-07 15:59                 ` Matthew L. Creech
2010-09-07 17:17                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-09-07 17:48                     ` Artem Bityutskiy

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