From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Mike Dunn <mikedunn@newsguy.com>
Cc: Peter Horton <phorton@bitbox.co.uk>, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] MTD: modify mtd api to return bitflip info on read operations
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:43:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1323009827.9400.75.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDB7B1D.60603@newsguy.com>
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On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 05:52 -0800, Mike Dunn wrote:
> On 12/04/2011 12:43 AM, Peter Horton wrote:
> > On 03/12/2011 20:20, Mike Dunn wrote:
> >>
> >> This patch proposes a change to the mtd API for the purpose of returning to
> >> the caller information on the number of bit errors corrected by the ecc
> >> facilities of the device during read operations. The affected functions are
> >> read() and read_oob().
> >>
> >
> > Do the number of bit-flips mean anything to the higher layers like UBI?
>
>
> The change was motivated primarily by the desire to get ubifs working well on
> nand flash. Currently it works well only on onenand devices where single
> bitflips are rare and random. On nand with frequent and consistent bitflips,
> ubi marks a large portion of the blocks as "bad".
Well, I think non-onenands are also supported. The very modern NAND
support has issues because of new problems which did not exist or were
not visible in the past.
>
> > As the ECC strength / error rate are a chip dependent thing how do the higher
> > layers know what is good/normal/bad?
>
>
> Good point. To be determined. Probably just another element in the mtd_info
> struct named ecc_strength or some such. UBI e.g., can determine a suitable
> "scrublevel" based on that.
I think UBI should scrub only if max_bitflips == ecc_strength by
default. If the driver supplies scrublevel scrub if max_bitflips ==
scrublevel.
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Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-04 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-03 20:20 [PATCH v2] MTD: modify mtd api to return bitflip info on read operations Mike Dunn
2011-12-04 8:43 ` Peter Horton
2011-12-04 13:52 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-04 14:43 ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2011-12-04 14:55 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-05 6:07 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05 16:58 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-05 17:09 ` Peter Horton
2011-12-05 18:57 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-06 21:52 ` Robert Jarzmik
2011-12-07 2:16 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-07 8:01 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2011-12-07 18:32 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-12 12:48 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-14 20:46 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-16 10:09 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-07 9:42 ` Peter Horton
2011-12-07 18:33 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-04 14:33 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05 6:23 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-12-05 18:13 ` Mike Dunn
2011-12-05 21:16 ` Artem Bityutskiy
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