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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Johan Gunnarsson <johan.gunnarsson@axis.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, jespern@axis.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] use hrtimer in nand_wait
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 10:23:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1337671409.2483.98.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337589758-8775-1-git-send-email-johan.gunnarsson@axis.com>

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On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 10:42 +0200, Johan Gunnarsson wrote:
> I've narrowed it down to the nand_wait routine and its dependency on a
> reliable jiffies counter. Sadly, jiffies is not reliable when handling
> of timer interrupts are delayed or even completely discarded. If
> interrupts are disabled for, say, 3 timer periods, jiffies will stop
> counting during this time and have a very fast increment by 3 when
> interrupts are later enabled.

I can follow up to this point.

>  This combined with unfortunate timing can cause the timeout loop
> think a 20ms timeout is happening when just <0.1ms has passed in wall
> clock time.

What is you HZ? Let's say it is 100, then jiffie increments every 10ms,
right? How can it increment by 2 after 0.1 ms?
> 
> To illustrate the jiffies/interrupt-relationship:
> 
> Interrupts: |      |      |                    |      |      |      |
> Jiffies:    |      |      |                    |||    |      |      |
> 
> This obviously only happen on multi-core CPUs, where the write and
> interrupts are executed by different cores simultaneously. Switching
> to hrtimer-based timeout solves this problem for me. I found a second
> (less serious) issue which included in the first patch.

Sorry, I do not understand why this happens only on SMP. Could you
please explain some more?

I do not disagree that we should stop using jiffies, if we can, I just
want to understand what is happening.

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Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-22  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-21  8:42 [PATCH 0/2] use hrtimer in nand_wait Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-21  8:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] mtd: nand: panic_nand_wait expects timeout in ms Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-21  8:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] mtd: nand: use hrtimer to measure timeout in nand_wait{_ready, } Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-22  7:53   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-22  8:52     ` Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-22 10:25       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-22 14:24         ` Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-22 17:10       ` Ivan Djelic
2012-05-22 18:21         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-23  6:39         ` Brian Norris
2012-05-23  8:36           ` Ivan Djelic
2012-05-23  8:14         ` Johan Gunnarsson
2012-05-22  7:23 ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2012-05-22  8:37   ` [PATCH 0/2] use hrtimer in nand_wait Johan Gunnarsson

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