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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Brian Norris" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	"Andrea Scian" <rnd4@dave-tech.it>,
	"Iwo Mergler" <Iwo.Mergler@netcommwireless.com>,
	"Jeff Lauruhn (jlauruhn)" <jlauruhn@micron.com>,
	"Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)" <beanhuo@micron.com>
Subject: Re: UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:24:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1446035085.12536.71.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151023101406.6d1490e5@bbrezillon>

On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 10:14 +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> I decided to go for the simplest solution (but I can't promise I
> won't
> change my mind if this approach appears to be wrong), which is either
> using a LEB is MLC or SLC mode. In SLC modes, only the first page of
> each pair is used, which completely address the paired pages problem.
> For now the SLC mode logic is hidden in the MTD/NAND layers which are
> providing functions to write/read in SLC mode.

Most of the writes go through the journalling subsystem.

There are some non-journal writes, related to internal meta-date
management, like from other subsystems: log, the master node, LPT,
index, GC.

In case of journal subsystem, in MLC mode you just skip pages every
time the "flush write-buffer" API call is used.

In LPT subsystem, you invent a custom solution, skip pages as needed.

In master - probably nothing needs to be done, since we have 2 copies.

Index, GC - data also goes via journal, so the journal subsystem
solution will probably cover it.


> Thanks to this differentiation, UBI is now exposing two kind of LEBs:
> - the secure (small) LEBS (those accessed in SLC mode)
> - the unsecure (big) LEBS (those accessed in MLC mode)

Is this really necessary? Feels like a bit of over-complication to the
UBI layer.

Can UBI care about itself WRT MLC safeness, and let UBIFS care about
itself?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-28 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 13:22 UBI/UBIFS: dealing with MLC's paired pages Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 15:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-17 15:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-17 16:47     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-18  7:17       ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-18  7:41         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-18  7:54         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-09-18  7:57           ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-09-18  9:38           ` Andrea Scian
2015-09-24  1:57             ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-24  6:31               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-24  7:43               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-24  9:44                 ` Stefan Roese
2015-09-29 11:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-29 12:51   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-23  8:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-27 20:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-28  9:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 10:44       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 11:14         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-28 15:50           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-28 12:24   ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2015-10-30  8:15     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30  8:21       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30  8:50       ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-10-30  9:08       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30  9:45         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 10:09           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:49             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-10-30 12:47               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:43           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 11:59             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-30 12:29               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-30 12:31                 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2015-10-30 12:30             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-10-30 12:41               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2015-10-28 12:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
     [not found] <A765B125120D1346A63912DDE6D8B6310BF4CAA8@NTXXIAMBX02.xacn.micron.com>
2015-09-25  7:30 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:25   ` Bean Huo 霍斌斌 (beanhuo)
2015-09-25  8:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-09-25  8:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-09-25  8:30   ` Karl Zhang 张双锣 (karlzhang)
2015-09-25  8:56     ` Boris Brezillon

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