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From: "Nikolai Vladychevski" <niko@isl.net.mx>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: duplicate DoC millenium with dd
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:20:37 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010911222037.24555.qmail@qis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10449.1000245624@redhat.com>

David Woodhouse writes: 

> 
> niko@isl.net.mx said:
>>  yes, this is the problem... right now I'm leaving 1 Meg for the
>> linuxBIOS  and kernel and right now there is left as little as 40 K
>> bytes free space of  that meg. 
> 
> Use modules?

yes, I do, but it still big, its a 2.4.7 

>  
> 
>>  If I update the  software on the chip once a week (it's an automatic
>> update via remote  server), will it survive for 2 years without
>> errors, for example ?  
> 
> It doesn't degrade over time. Using it the first time may lose the 
> bad-block information which is put on it by the NAND flash chip 
> manufacturer (Toshiba or Samsung, not M-Systems). After that there's no 
> difference. 
> 
>>  Wow! that sounds cool! I have to try it, but would linuxBIOS conflict
>> with  it?  
> 
> No, should be fine. You could have it appear as three MTD devices - one for 
> LinuxBIOS, one for the kernel, and one for cramfs.

I'm sorry, I can't find any docs about creating partitions, mtd0, mtd1, 
mtd2, etc..? list archives dont help either, how it is done? 


>
> Using cramfs directly on the NAND flash gives you no error correction and 

but wait a minute, if I enable these options: 

   <*> NAND Device support
     [*] Enable ECC correction algorithm
     [*] Verify NAND page writes 

won't it help me? 

> no facility to work around bad blocks. I wouldn't wan to do it like that in 
> production, although in practice it'll work unless you have a chip with bad 
> blocks.

well, my environment will be production,so I guess I'm out of luck because 
if I take your precautions: 

1) I can't use nftl_format
2) I can't use mtd partitioning because I will write directly on the NAND 
flash..... 

this is kinda bad news....... 


nikolai

      reply	other threads:[~2001-09-11 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-11 18:26 duplicate DoC millenium with dd Nikolai Vladychevski
2001-09-11 20:17 ` David Woodhouse
2001-09-11 20:13   ` Nikolai Vladychevski
2001-09-11 21:23     ` David Woodhouse
2001-09-11 20:58       ` Nikolai Vladychevski
2001-09-11 22:00         ` David Woodhouse
2001-09-11 22:20           ` Nikolai Vladychevski [this message]

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