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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Nash <paulnash@wildseed.com>,
	"Linux-MTD (E-mail)" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Intel sez: Synchronous Flash and XIP is the future -- thoughts?
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:27:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021216092801.80539C6139@atlas.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:07:42 GMT." <1914.1040029662@passion.cambridge.redhat.com>

In message <1914.1040029662@passion.cambridge.redhat.com> you wrote:
> 
> The power saving point is fair -- flash does take less power than RAM. But
> if you're _that_ short of power, you're likely to be using expensive (but
> low-power) SRAM, and have the rest of the system so tightly specified that
> you'll be more likely to be using something like eCos on it, not Linux.

Agreed.

> With the chips available today and in the near future, XIP, at least for a
> writable flash chip, makes virtually zero sense on Linux. Anyone who tries
> to tell you otherwise is either on crack, trying to sell you something, or
> both.

Also you might find problems running recent (and future)  kernels  in
XIP  mode  -  the kernel text segment is often not exactly read-only.
Especially when you use one f the existing real-time extensions  (but
not only then). It seems the amount of tweaking that is necessary for
XIP  is  growing  with  each new kernel release - to a level where it
becomes impractical.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-16  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-16  2:51 Intel sez: Synchronous Flash and XIP is the future -- thoughts? Paul Nash
2002-12-16  9:07 ` David Woodhouse
2002-12-16  9:27   ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2002-12-16  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2002-12-16  9:56       ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-12-16 11:45         ` David Woodhouse
2002-12-16 17:21           ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-12-16 17:38             ` David Woodhouse
2002-12-16 18:06               ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-12-16 17:43             ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-12-16 18:07               ` Nicolas Pitre
2002-12-16 21:02           ` Charles Manning
2002-12-16 21:21             ` Russ Dill
2002-12-16 23:18               ` Charles Manning
2002-12-16 11:04     ` Michal Schulz
2002-12-16 11:16       ` Wolfgang Denk

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