From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: manningc2@actrix.gen.nz, "Thayne Harbaugh" <tharbaugh@lnxi.com>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Fw: corrupt my NAND flash device
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:04:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200304300004.21495.tglx@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030429194216.56C10447E@blood.actrix.co.nz>
On Tuesday 29 April 2003 21:37, Charles Manning wrote:
> > I have tested this with both chiptypes. The erase is aborted and
> > restarted by the erase function.
>
> A couple of comments:
> * "Both chip types" is misleading. There is not just a Toshiba and a
> Samsung chiptype. Each of these vendors provides chips with different
> internal architectures. That is one of the reason characteristics like the
> number of partial page writes etc change.
True. I meant a couple of different types.
> * "Aborted and restarted" is perhaps incorrect. Don't you really mean
> "aborted and re-performed"? I do not believe these parts have a way of
> remembering their internal eraseure state to restart line NOR parts do.
Yep. The command is thrown away according to datasheet and it is issued again
later. Sorry for misleading expression.
> My other question remains: do you really gain anything by adding the erase
> interruption feature? From a Samsung datasheet:
> * Block erase takes typically 2ms, max 3ms.
> * If you do a reset while the part is erasing, the reset might take as long
> as 500us.
> You then have to restart the erase for it to take another 2ms (unless it
> gets interrupted again).
I have done test on different chips. The erasetime varies a lot. The peak was
45ms. So that matters IMHO. The specs allow up to 200ms.
> This certainly adds some unpredictability to the behaviour. Most likely it
> does all work, but is it worth it?
Depends. :)
> > It would really be interresting, if those problems are in related to an
> > erase abort. Can anybody insert some debugging in nand_get_chip, where
> > the abort is done?
>
> Yes, it certianly would be interesting.
I think, I have to throw out some harsh remarks again to get an answer on this
question, as the "hurray, I'm willing to volunteer" replies are not really
much up to now. :)
--
Thomas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-04-29 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-22 20:03 Fw: corrupt my NAND flash device Alex Samoutin
2003-04-22 20:26 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-22 20:59 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-23 20:45 ` Charles Manning
2003-04-24 18:25 ` Alex Samoutin
2003-04-25 13:01 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-25 22:23 ` Alex Samoutin
2003-04-25 23:10 ` Thayne Harbaugh
2003-04-26 10:23 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-28 15:02 ` Thayne Harbaugh
2003-04-28 21:14 ` Charles Manning
2003-04-28 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-04-29 1:23 ` Charles Manning
2003-04-29 8:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-04-29 19:37 ` Charles Manning
2003-04-29 22:04 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2003-04-30 16:54 ` Alex Samoutin
2003-04-30 18:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-07-02 17:43 ` Alex Samoutin
2003-07-02 17:53 ` Jasmine Strong
2003-07-02 20:10 ` Alex Samoutin
2003-07-04 1:43 ` David Woodhouse
2003-07-03 5:44 ` Stephan Linke
2003-07-05 15:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-07-07 9:27 ` Stephan Linke
2003-07-07 13:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2003-07-08 7:50 ` David Woodhouse
2003-04-26 10:18 ` Jörn Engel
2003-04-28 8:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2003-08-18 11:36 Eugeny Mints
2003-04-22 7:05 Paul Wong
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