From: Charles Manning <manningc2@actrix.gen.nz>
To: "" <simon@baydel.com>, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: SmartMedia FAT
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:34:16 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031027202807.DA4481A0A7@desire.actrix.co.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F9D3D98.6453.14E703@localhost>
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 04:45, wrote:
> I would like to be able to access FAT partitions on a SMC via Linux.
> Curently the hardare loads its' configuration and boots the hardware from
> files on a FAT partition. The hardware itself has no hardware flash
> translation layer. The SMC has been created on a USB device which contains
> a flash translation layer conforming to the SFFDC standard. After this a
> JFFS2 root is mounted. It would be nice if I could change the hardware and
> boot files from Linux but I have been unable to find any reliable way of
> accessing the FAT filesystem.
Ok, I'll first remind you that a SmardMedia card is just NAND flash and you
can use it with a NAND file system like YAFFS or JFFS2.
I'll also warn you that running FAT on SmartMedia is far from reliable and is
slow (relative to YAFFS and, I expect, JFFS2).
The rest of my response assumes that you have a valid reason to use FAT +
SMartMedia (eg. need to share files with a SmartMedia-equipped device).
Iyf you are just using SMC to load images from a PC into an embedded system,
then you're likely going to get the best result by using YAFFS or JFFS2 and
just using a simple copy process on the host to copy a YAFFS/JFFS2 image onto
the SmartMedia card. ie a process like:
* Generate a YAFFS image with mkyaffsimage.
* Copy the image onto the SMC with a program derived from mkyaffs.
* Stuff into your embedded system and boot YAFFS.
>
> As far as I understand, from the information I have read, I would need to
> create a block driver which contained a SSFDC compatible translation layer
> ? In the nand FAQ it mentions SmartMedia FAT. I have been unable to find
> how this is implemented. Has anyone implemented this yet ?
As I understand it, the SMC FAT format differs slightly from regular FAT. I
don't know of any Linux implementations.
The Samsung www has various info on the formats. The SSFDC www has some specs
too. The yaffs_ecc.c ECC code (in the YAFFS CVS) does SMC compliant ECC
calcs.
> I would like to know if my assumptions are correct. If so I guess there are
> many ways this could be achieved.
>
> 1. Wrirte my on block driver ?
Currently the md block driver is just a way to get from a name in /dev to the
internal kernel structures so that it can be used by a flash file system. It
does not supply full block driver functionality.
A SmartMedia block driver does bad block management, ECC and logical to
physical block mapping.
> 2. Bolt on some bits to mtdblock ?
I guess this could be added to mtdblock, but is probably best done as a new
block driver that uses mtdblock under the hood. Why? Because probably nobody
really wants all this extra stuff added to mtdblock.
> 3. As I don't do this all the time write a user app to update via /dev/mtd
I guess that's a possibility, but seems like some hard work. Likely a
YAFFS/JFFS2 path would be simpler.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-27 20:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-27 15:45 SmartMedia FAT simon
2003-10-27 20:34 ` Charles Manning [this message]
2003-10-28 11:11 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-28 23:33 ` Charles Manning
2003-10-29 0:48 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-29 9:40 ` Jasmine Strong
2003-10-29 20:33 ` Charles Manning
2003-10-29 10:21 ` simon
2003-10-29 10:55 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-30 14:26 ` Simon Haynes
2003-10-30 15:03 ` David Woodhouse
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