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From: tglx@linutronix.de (Thomas Gleixner)
To: David Daney <ddaney@avtrex.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: mtd, mtdblock and nand ecc.
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:36:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200404141936.32655.tglx@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <407D6BB6.6090504@avtrex.com>

On Wednesday 14 April 2004 18:49, David Daney wrote:
> >
> >He ? 1 minute ? Where is the time spent ?
> How should I know?

Profiling :)

> >Thats totaly out of the usual time. My boot time with JFFS2 is well below
> > 30s on an ARM7. I have no YAFFS root fs handy, but it is much faster.
> >
> >The solution is checking where the time is lost and fixing it.
>
> I have a custom nand driver (based on nand.c, but adapted to a non
> standard nand physical interface) that uses software ECC.  On a 300 MHz
> mips32 cpu.

Why did you modify nand.c ? 
Almost everything in nand.c can be overridden by the board driver. Therefor we 
call all the functions through chip->xxx().

> When ever jffs2 or yaffs are mounted, they both seem to read many
> pages.  Perhaps the ECC overhead of reading all that data.
> I suppose I could turn off ECC and see how fast it is...

Sure, that would give an estimation.

> >>That is why I am thinking about using a non NAND aware file system for
> >>things that can be read-only.
> >
> >But this does not answer my question how you want to deal with bad blocks
> > ?
>
> I want a file system very much like cramfs, but that can have holes in
> it so that it works on NAND.
> When mounted it would start scanning blocks starting from the beginning
> of the NAND partition until it found a valid superblock (or what ever
> you would call it).  Then it would be done because all of the indexes
> would be built to work around the bad blocks.  Since this filesystem
> would be read-only with a static structure, you would never have to read
> more than necessary.

OK, so you are going to write a fs driver, which is NAND aware and behaves 
similar to cramfs. 
Whatfor then the discussion about making mtdblock nand aware ?
If you write a nand aware fs then you just call the appropriate functions. 
This fs will be specific for nand or selectable for nand, so what ?
No need to touch anything in mtdblock.c

-- 
Thomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-14 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-14  4:37 mtd, mtdblock and nand ecc David Daney
2004-04-14 12:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-04-14 14:11   ` David Daney
2004-04-14 14:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-04-14 15:13       ` David Daney
2004-04-14 16:15         ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-04-14 16:49           ` David Daney
2004-04-14 17:36             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2004-04-14 18:39               ` David Daney

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