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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: "Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@infradead.org>
Cc: MTD List <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: JFFS3 & performance
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:40:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050113154037.GC18864@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501131521470.17331@phoenix.infradead.org>

On Thu, 13 January 2005 15:22:38 +0000, Artem B. Bityuckiy wrote:
>
> Yes, I thought so either. But imagine due to unclean reboot the last CRC 
> was not written completely. this is the problem.

Agreed, it's hard to fully protect against such races.

Here is another design I'm not very happy about.  But it might work:

1) Checksum errors on the last node are silently ignored - most likely
   unclean reboot.

2) Last node per erase block is a special endmarker node, similar to
   cleanmarkers.

3) During unmount, an endmarker is written to the end of all
   partially-filled erase blocks.

Rule 1 makes sure we can somewhat distinguish between both problems
and don't report any false positives.  Rule 2 makes sure, we don't
miss real flash corruption on the last node, in case it occurs to the
last node of a full erase block.  Rule 3 closes the next small hole.

As long as GC doesn't obsolete/erase old node before the GC'd
something else is written behind the new node, this should be pretty
safe.  But it's horribly complicated.  Would be much nicer if the
checksum itself could distinguish between both cases.

Jörn

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-13 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-11 12:29 JFFS3 & performance Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-11 14:37 ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-11 21:51 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  0:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 16:59     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:17         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  9:15   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 16:41     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:02       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:06         ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:11           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:22         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:28           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 17:34           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:45             ` Dan Post
2005-01-12 17:52               ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:14       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 22:30         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 22:43           ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-12 22:55             ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 15:50               ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:30                 ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 18:36                   ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 19:06                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 19:22                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:55                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 19:10                     ` Brian Fox
2005-01-13 19:23                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-28  6:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-13  7:54             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13  8:25           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:09           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:10     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:40         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:42           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 18:43           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 19:44             ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 19:53               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 20:06                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:33       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:43         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:45           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:58             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:50               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 14:49   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:05     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:22         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:40           ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2005-01-13 15:49             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 15:53               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:13               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:16                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:22                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-14 13:46                   ` Jamey Hicks
2005-01-14 14:16                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-18 15:50                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2005-01-19 13:07                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:24                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:27                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:32                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:51                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 16:31                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 19:58                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 14:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 14:37                                     ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-20 14:40                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:05                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 15:27                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:37                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:13                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 16:31                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:41                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:08                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 17:33                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:57                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 12:44                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:13                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 13:42                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:52                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 14:00                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:04                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-25 10:51                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 10:56                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-25 11:13                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:30                                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-21 22:33                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 22:46                                   ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 23:54                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-22 13:03                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-22 22:04                                       ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 10:03                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 10:08                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 11:04                                           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 11:55                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-16 13:20 Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:27 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 14:45   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:50     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 15:00       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 17:53     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 18:42       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 19:15         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:49           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:58             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:46               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 20:02             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:37               ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 20:51                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 21:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 21:06                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 21:22                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 22:06                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:25                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 10:44                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:56                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 10:46                               ` jasmine
2004-12-17 11:01                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 11:19                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:09                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:26                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:52                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:10                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 11:20                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 13:36                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 14:03                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 14:44                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:14                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:25                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:08                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 20:22                                             ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:43                                               ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:49                                                 ` Jasmine Strong
2004-12-22 15:30                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:37                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:47                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:56                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:09                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:17                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:43                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 16:46                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 17:26                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 18:14                                                         ` xemc
2004-12-22 18:20                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-23 13:52                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-23 17:02                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:10                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:09                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-07 11:27                                                                   ` jasmine
2005-01-07 11:43                                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:23                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:27                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:33                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:37                                                                             ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:43                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:55                                                                                 ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:20                                                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:24                                                                                     ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:28                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:31                                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:32                                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 17:57                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:50                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:31                                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-06 10:08                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-08 20:14                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-09 11:39                                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-10 14:24                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:59                                                 ` jasmine
2004-12-22 16:19                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:21                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:56                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:39                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 17:33                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:20                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 12:23                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 14:45       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 16:03         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:33 ` David Vrabel
2004-12-17 15:34   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:14   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:25     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:39       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:10     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:19       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:51         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:59           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:13             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-19  3:05               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:09           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-21 14:38 ` Jörn Engel

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