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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: "Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@infradead.org>
Cc: MTD List <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: JFFS3 & performance
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:33:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050120173341.GA24657@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1106240903.7940.12.camel@sauron.oktetlabs.ru>

On Thu, 20 January 2005 20:08:23 +0300, Artem B. Bityuckiy wrote:
>
> By the way, I'm not sure having times in our "inode flags node" is
> reasonable. In this case we will need to update it very often and
> possibly, will waste even more space (flag nodes have headers). If we
> put only rarely changed data there, like UID and GID, we may save some
> flash space... 

Makes some sense.  Needs more thinking...

> One more by the way, compression mode and whatever people implement in
> xattr flags may go to that inode flags node.

Extended attributes can be arbitrary, so they should go somewhere
else.  Basically, have a pseudo-directory for each inode and treat the
inodes inside that pseudo-directory as extended attributes.  Similar
to reiser4.  Didn't Josh plan to work in this area?

> And I still do not think that if we found bad block on NAND we should
> print large warning every mount. For NOR, no doubts.

What's so very special about NAND?  Either it's a useful storage
medium (with slightly different details), or it's not.  If it is, you
will never see this message.  If it's not, you shouldn't put any
serious data on it anyway.  In both cases, you should never see this
message.

If you do see the message, it means that you *thought* it would be a
useful storage medium, but you're *wrong*.  Telling you that your
conception of reality doesn't match reality itself is a service.

> > Ouch!  Ok, looks like this one could stay.
> > 
> > Although...we do have the offset already.  So for the 4k case, it's
> > pretty simple to build the fragtree as well, as there is just one node
> > that could possibly be in the 4k range for it.
> > 
> > The remaining cases get quite a bit messier.  They remain the rare
> > case, so it may still be worth the effort, if anyone cares enough to
> > write the code.
> > 
> 
> Anyway, nodes are not sorted on media. So to find the node with 
> next offset we will need to do some search. This is time consuming. Or
> we will need to keep nodes in offset-sorted list,

How about an rb_tree, sorted by the offset?  Just like the one in
fs/jffs2/nodelist.h, hm? ;)

You're right, it's not sure whether this is actually a useful
optimization.  But it's not trivial to dismiss either.

Jörn

-- 
All art is but imitation of nature.
-- Lucius Annaeus Seneca

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-20 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-11 12:29 JFFS3 & performance Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-11 14:37 ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-11 21:51 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  0:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 16:59     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:17         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12  9:15   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 16:41     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:02       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:06         ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:11           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 17:22         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 17:28           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 17:34           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:45             ` Dan Post
2005-01-12 17:52               ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 17:14       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 22:30         ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-12 22:43           ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-12 22:55             ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 15:50               ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:30                 ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-13 18:36                   ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 19:06                     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 19:22                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-13 18:55                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 19:10                     ` Brian Fox
2005-01-13 19:23                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-28  6:08                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-01-13  7:54             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13  8:25           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:09           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:10     ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 18:40         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:42           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-12 18:43           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:16           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 19:44             ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 19:53               ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-12 20:06                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:33       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:43         ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-12 18:45           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 18:58             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-12 19:50               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 14:49   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:05     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:22         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 15:40           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 15:49             ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-13 15:53               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:13               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:16                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-13 16:22                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-13 16:21                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-14 13:46                   ` Jamey Hicks
2005-01-14 14:16                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-18 15:50                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2005-01-19 13:07                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:24                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:27                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 15:32                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 15:51                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-19 16:31                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-19 19:58                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 14:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 14:37                                     ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-20 14:40                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:05                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 15:27                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 15:37                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:13                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 16:31                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 16:41                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-20 17:08                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-20 17:33                                                   ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2005-01-20 17:57                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 12:44                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:13                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 13:42                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 13:52                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-21 14:00                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:04                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-25 10:51                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 10:56                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-25 11:13                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-21 14:30                                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-21 22:33                                     ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 22:46                                   ` Jared Hulbert
2005-01-21 23:54                                     ` Josh Boyer
2005-01-22 13:03                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-22 22:04                                       ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 10:03                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 10:08                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-23 11:04                                           ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-23 11:55                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-16 13:20 Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:27 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 14:45   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 14:50     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 15:00       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 17:53     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 18:42       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-16 19:15         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:49           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 19:58             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:46               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 20:02             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 20:37               ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 20:51                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 21:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-16 21:06                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-16 21:22                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 22:06                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:25                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 10:44                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 10:56                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 10:46                               ` jasmine
2004-12-17 11:01                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 11:19                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:09                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:26                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:52                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:10                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-17 11:20                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 13:36                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 14:03                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 14:44                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:14                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:25                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:08                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 20:22                                             ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:43                                               ` xemc
2004-12-22 20:49                                                 ` Jasmine Strong
2004-12-22 15:30                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:37                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:47                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 15:56                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:09                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:17                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 16:43                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 16:46                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 17:26                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 18:14                                                         ` xemc
2004-12-22 18:20                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-23 13:52                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-23 17:02                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:10                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 11:09                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2005-01-07 11:27                                                                   ` jasmine
2005-01-07 11:43                                                                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:23                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:27                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:33                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:37                                                                             ` jasmine
2005-01-07 14:43                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:55                                                                                 ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:20                                                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:24                                                                                     ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:28                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 15:31                                                                                         ` jasmine
2005-01-07 15:32                                                                                           ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 17:57                                                                                       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:50                                                                               ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-07 14:31                                                                         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-06 10:08                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-08 20:14                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-09 11:39                                                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-10 14:24                                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 15:59                                                 ` jasmine
2004-12-22 16:19                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:21                                                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-22 15:56                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 16:39                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-22 17:33                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:20                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 12:23                                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 14:45       ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-21 16:03         ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-17 11:33 ` David Vrabel
2004-12-17 15:34   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:14   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:25     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 16:39       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:10     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:19       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:51         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-18 17:59           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:13             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-19  3:05               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:09           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-12-21 14:38 ` Jörn Engel

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