From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.fh-wedel.de ([213.39.232.198] helo=moskovskaya.fh-wedel.de) by canuck.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.43 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1CuCfg-0001Eu-ON for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:39:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:38:45 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel To: Cam Message-ID: <20050127163845.GA7755@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> References: <20050126205121.11236.qmail@web52705.mail.yahoo.com> <1106775037.6955.50.camel@weaponx.rchland.ibm.com> <1106819251.783.141.camel@baythorne.infradead.org> <20050127131702.GA22121@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> <41F9127E.6030508@mesias.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41F9127E.6030508@mesias.co.uk> Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, David Woodhouse Subject: Re: JFFS3 document / wiki [OT] List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, 27 January 2005 16:10:38 +0000, Cam wrote: > > >Plus, Wikis tend to be instant security problems. The situation > >appears to be so bad that anyone with average exploit knowledge can > >read the sources and control some new machines within a rainy > >afternoon. > > Can you back that statement up with an example please? I wasn't aware > that wikis were so dangerous! :) Neither was I before attending last years ccc. http://www.ccc.de/congress/2004/ Various bits of information on this were spread all over the place: o Code examples of mysql - tons of buffer overflows. o Code examples of php - same. o Various hacks of machines based on either php or mysql vulnerabilities. o Some specific problems with some wiki implementations. Considering that most wikis use php, mysql or both, you can pretty much get the idea. I cannot point to specific vulnerabilities or exploits, but the only thing stopping me from owning your wiki is my lack of interest. Cooking up something new is horribly simple. So you might want to move it somewhere, either to a dedicated machine or to a vserver/chroot/jail. And if you have too much time on your hands, security audits on php and mysql wouldn't hurt. Jörn -- All art is but imitation of nature. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca