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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: carsteno@de.ibm.com, dhowells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][MTD] mtdpart.c: allow other drivers to get physical address of partition
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 01:02:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070803230248.GA22021@lazybastard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0708031245j5f292b17w64de8bb75435ea98@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 3 August 2007 12:45:45 -0700, Jared Hulbert wrote:
> 
> > > Perhaps we want to set it up so that _if_ there is a process which can
> > > continue, it'll do so. Only when there's nothing runnable in userspace
> > > do we suspend an erase? In that case, perhaps we'd want some kind of
> > > hook in the idle loop?
> >
> > Or we could just always suspend the erase and resume it the next time we
> > enter the kernel, either via system call or interrupt.  Should allow the
> > process to make some progress without starving the erase.  Would need
> > hooks as well, just in different places.
> 
> Hmmm, we'd definitely benefit from having a hook in idle to trigger
> the erase to resume.  Having hooks for entry into kernel space sounds
> interesting, but if you leave it too quickly and suspend the erase you
> don't make forward progress.  However, I'm not sure how you'd
> determine whether a given process can continue without suspending the
> erase.

Does the system ever idle in a userspace process?  If not then you'd
have to come by one of my hooks before going into idle.

Even better, if the process does a system call, or an interrupt happens,
it will not access the XIP pages while the syscall/interrupt is
processed.  So the erase may as well resume for the time being.  And
potentially it can even run a little longer if no XIP faults happen.

The big question is how such a scheme would perform.  It may turn out so
bad that we should rather copy the data, hand out RAM and wait for
memory pressure to remove those pages again.

Jörn

-- 
I don't understand it. Nobody does.
-- Richard P. Feynman

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-03 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-27  0:04 [PATCH][MTD] mtdpart.c: allow other drivers to get physical address of partition Jared Hulbert
2007-07-27 13:48 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-27 17:05   ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-27 17:44     ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-27 20:53       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-28 11:43         ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-28 21:08           ` Jared Hulbert
2007-07-31 11:55 ` David Woodhouse
2007-07-31 19:55   ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 11:55     ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03  1:56       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03  3:01         ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03  5:23           ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03  9:21             ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03  6:42       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 12:47         ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 22:29           ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 12:18     ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-01 12:59       ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-01 20:37         ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-01 23:31           ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-02  7:53           ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-02 21:55             ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03  7:59               ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03  9:17                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 11:03                   ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 11:31                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 12:21                       ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 12:58                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 13:09               ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-03 13:18                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-08-03 19:45                   ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-03 23:02                     ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2007-08-04 12:33                     ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-04 17:47                       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-06  6:30                     ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-03 18:39                 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-08-06  6:23                 ` Carsten Otte
2007-08-01 18:03       ` Jared Hulbert

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