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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Jeff S <jsolman33@yahoo.com>, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: JFFS2 determine writing state
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:35:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080115173510.GC16677@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080115165043.GD22338@lazybastard.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 January 2008 14:08:00 +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > But the particular fs behaviour is relevant the other way around: I
> > have a program which calls open/write/close with small writes
> > moderately often (because it calls another program which actually
> > operates on the file).
> > 
> > If JFFS2 commits pending writes on every close, I should change things
> > to keep the file open between writes so they are coalesced and faster,
> > when I don't need the individual writes to be committed separately.
> 
> JFFS2 also commits on every write.  So you need userspace caching if you
> want to coalesce things.  fwrite might be enough for that...

Oh, ok, I thought it at least merged things in the page cache like
most other filesystems.  It seems it's more like O_DSYNC - or more
like O_SYNC (commits metadata changed for every write too)?

Is there a particular advantage, in terms of flash overhead,
compression, or mount/gc times, to writing blocks with a particular
size and alignment, such as 4k size and 4k offset-alignment-in-file?

Also, does LogFS (which I want to try later) have similar
characteristics?

> > When I do need the data committed I can use fsync of course.
> 
> ...as long as you also fflush (or fclose) before fsync.

Sure.  Thanks for your response.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-15 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 23:38 JFFS2 determine writing state Jeff S
2008-01-11 13:57 ` Josh Boyer
2008-01-12 10:03   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-12 20:15     ` Josh Boyer
2008-01-15 14:08       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-15 16:50         ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-15 17:35           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-01-15 19:16             ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-15 21:51               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-15 23:26                 ` Jörn Engel

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