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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	Jeff S <jsolman33@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: JFFS2 determine writing state
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:51:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080115215144.GA29037@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080115191603.GJ22338@lazybastard.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 January 2008 17:35:10 +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > 
> > Oh, ok, I thought it at least merged things in the page cache like
> > most other filesystems.  It seems it's more like O_DSYNC - or more
> > like O_SYNC (commits metadata changed for every write too)?
> 
> I don't think there is a really good equivalent.  Writes happen
> immediatly, but the changes may not become effective immediatly.  In a
> way, the worst of both worlds. :)

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by that.  Let me guess:

Do you mean that MTD write operations are started by write(), but
write() returns before the writes are committed reliably?

If so does fsync/fdatasync/sync_page_range ensure that the preceding
writes are committed reliably?  And does that include fsync on a
directory following an atomic rename (for reliable replacement of a
file)?

> > Also, does LogFS (which I want to try later) have similar
> > characteristics?
> 
> At the moment, yes.  Most likely I won't get the caching part done
> before LCA.

I guess write caching is an interesting beast for such a structured
filesystem.  It would seem like a good opportunity to coalesce some
tree node updates, something applications can't do themselves.
Looking forward to it :-)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-15 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-10 23:38 JFFS2 determine writing state Jeff S
2008-01-11 13:57 ` Josh Boyer
2008-01-12 10:03   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-12 20:15     ` Josh Boyer
2008-01-15 14:08       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-15 16:50         ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-15 17:35           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-01-15 19:16             ` Jörn Engel
2008-01-15 21:51               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-01-15 23:26                 ` Jörn Engel

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