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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: big flash disks?
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:32:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080602123217.GA2679@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080602115538.GC21359@logfs.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> Flash allows one to do partial writes to blocks.  SSDs generally don't.
> Logfs currently does partial writes for atomic transactions, to make
> creat(), unlink(), rename() and friends behave well.  Depending on your
> SSD a simple creat() can blow up to writing several megabytes on the
> actual medium.

It's a good argument for delaying writes, and committing only the
minimum necessary on fsync/fdatasync/sync_file_range.

According to the slashdot comment which started this thread :-) they
do 4k log writes to large SSDs - and then report a very high write IOP
rate for database applications.  It's the high write rate which is
their selling point: price per GB is ridiculous.  So I'm inclined to
believe they do actually get the claimed write rate under some
circumstances.

If they can do 4k writes, and you cannot, it sounds like the SSDs you
have used are very different to the SSDs they have used.  Is that
right?  If so, we need to keep an open mind about the different kinds
of SSD that are becoming available under that name.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-02 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-01 18:42 big flash disks? Jamie Lokier
2008-06-01 20:41 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-02  5:59 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-06-02  8:23   ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:43     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:55       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:32         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-06-03 18:09           ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:44             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-04  6:25               ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02  7:28 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:41   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:43     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:48       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 18:12         ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-04  6:18             ` Jörn Engel

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