From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: big flash disks?
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:44:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080603184428.GA6899@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603180944.GE1224@logfs.org>
Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Mon, 2 June 2008 13:32:18 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> >
> > If they can do 4k writes, and you cannot, it sounds like the SSDs you
> > have used are very different to the SSDs they have used. Is that
> > right?
>
> It isn't. Their SSDs have shitty performance for 4k random writes.
> That's the entire point of their product. They reorder the data,
> turning random 4k writes into aligned eraseblock-sized writes. After
> that reordering the performance goes way up. Iirc at least one SSD they
> used must have 1MB erasesize to explain the performance boost.
Yes, they reorder - he says as much, that traditional filesystems
perform very poorly.
But he quites a high write IOP rate, which is sometimes taken to mean
a high rate of database commits (e.g. fsync). That can't be done with
eraseblock-sized writes.
If it's not high commit rate, then the quoted IOP rate is misleading
because you can do the same reordering thing with hard disks to get a
high write rate. (Albeit hard disks suffer from random reads more if
ordering writes disorders reads).
If you think it's just reordering, not committing each 4k write one
after the other quickly, I'll ask him about it.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-03 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-01 18:42 big flash disks? Jamie Lokier
2008-06-01 20:41 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-02 5:59 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-06-02 8:23 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:55 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 18:09 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:44 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-06-04 6:25 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 7:28 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:43 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 18:12 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-04 6:18 ` Jörn Engel
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