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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Bruce_Leonard@selinc.com
Subject: Re: mtd_info->size again (lengthy)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:21:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080609132117.GC29526@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080608121020.GA13200@logfs.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> replacing them with submit_fio (or some equivalent function, if
> people dislike the name).

May I suggest submit_mtdio?  One concept to one name, you know.

F means flash, sure.  But we don't call the devices /dev/flash0, /dev/flash1.
Nor do we call it the Flash subsystem.

Or, maybe we should change the name to flash everywhere.  Most people
recognise that nowadays - flash is a common term.

> Submit_fio has the advantage of allowing asynchronous operations,
> queueing, out-of-order completion and all those goodies.  If you
> have several chips in a device, I'm sure you want those as well.

Yes!  I always wondered why it wasn't done like that from the beginning.

> And while at it, replace the 32bit size with a 64bit blockno and 32bit
> offset.  Unless someone is stupid enough to create devices with 4G
> erasesize, that should last for a human lifetime or something close.

Although a single chip is unlikely to have 4GiB erasesize for a while,
a cluster of chips might, and it should be possible to represent them
as a single device.  I strongly suggest supporting erasesizes
comparable with the device size.  That doesn't mean writesize has to
be that big - writesize should fit in size_t (actually ssize_t), just
like sys_write().

> > It still leaves the problem of converting all driver.  I've only started
> on mtdram - because it is simple and everyone can test it.  Other
> drivers can follow over time.  Users like jffs2 could be converted as
> well, but I'd rather leave them for now.

> We want synchronous wrappers around submit_fio anyway, as those are
> useful for development and for trivial performance-agnostic code.
> Comments?

I'm thinking we want asynchronous wrappers around the synchronous
methods too, using a dispatch thread.  So that drivers can be
converted one by one, and old drivers don't need to be.  Something like
generic_submit_fio.

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-09 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-08  5:38 mtd_info->size again (lengthy) Bruce_Leonard
2008-06-08 12:10 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-08 12:13   ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-09  2:51   ` Bruce_Leonard
2008-06-09  5:21     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-09  4:43   ` Bruce_Leonard
2008-06-09  5:28     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-09 13:21   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-06-09 14:36     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-09 16:31       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-09 17:22         ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-10 10:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 11:46             ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-11  0:09   ` Bruce_Leonard
2008-06-11  7:18     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-11  7:46       ` Bruce_Leonard
2008-06-11  9:13         ` Jörn Engel

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