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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Eric Holmberg <Eric_Holmberg@Trimble.com>
Cc: Urs Muff <urs_muff@trimble.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: UBIFS Corrupt during power failure
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:44:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090415164416.GD4325@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C77C279BA71FD14985DC8E75FB265AB70305C6B2@usw-am-xch-02.am.trimblecorp.net>

Eric Holmberg wrote:
> > Is this really different from NAND and it's page writes?
> > Do the CFI block writes have to be aligned (to 64 bytes) offset, or
> > can the 64 bytes start at any word position?
> 
> Looking through the data sheet again, it looks like there is the concept
> of a page for block writes in this particular NOR flash where a page
> starts on any address evenly divisible by 0x20 (32-byte block).  The CFI
> driver handles this when splitting up the blocks.
> 
> Here's the datasheet for reference:
>  * http://www.spansion.com/datasheets/s29gl-p_00_a11_e.pdf?page=28
> 
> Thinking about it, this shouldn't affect the maximum possible corruption
> count, since a fully-aligned write buffer is the worst case (a possible
> of a <=64-byte corruption).  If the block is split between pages, then
> 32-bytes would occur in the first write and 32-bytes in the second
> write, so the maximum corruption would be <=32 bytes.
>
> Does this match with your thoughts?

Yes.  Another parameter could be exported by MTD: the max block
corruption alignment, 32 in this case.  Then UBIFS's scanner (or other
tools) could be a little more accurate.

I doubt if it's important to scan more accurately, but it would be a
good parameter to export from MTD anyway, while adding the other one,
just to describe the chip properly for tools, diagnostics etc.

Unrelated to this chip: I vaguely remember, aren't there some flash
chips which can do more than one block write in parallel, or a write
in parallel with an erase to a different block?

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-15 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 13:45 UBIFS Corrupt during power failure Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 15:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-03-24 17:04   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-24 18:16     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-25  6:32     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26  6:59     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-26 14:09       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-30 19:00         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-03-31 14:45           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 12:25           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 14:27             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 15:17               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 15:49                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 17:00                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-10 17:11                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-10 18:33                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14  6:11                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:09                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-14 15:45                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 15:53                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-14 18:00                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15  6:00                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 15:17                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:09                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 16:12                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-15 16:32                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-04-15 18:26                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 18:38                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-15 19:33                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-04-15 20:15                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-04-15 20:46                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16  5:51                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16  5:46                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-16 21:34                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17  8:56                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 13:51                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-17 14:36                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17 23:49                                               ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-15  7:16                                                 ` Stefan Roese
2009-05-18 17:30                                                   ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-19  8:18                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-19 22:16                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-05-25  8:38                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:54                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-25 12:57                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:26                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:29                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 13:33                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:05                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-03 14:47                                                                 ` Urs Muff
2009-07-03 14:58                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:30                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  4:51                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-06  6:43                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  6:46                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-07  7:05                                                                             ` Urs Muff
2009-07-13 18:22                                                                             ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-14  5:34                                                                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:52                                                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-15 21:35                                                                                 ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-16  7:33                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24  6:49                                                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 12:00                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 13:39                                                                                       ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-24 14:55                                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-24 14:05                                                                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 14:09                                                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:09                                                                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 16:49                                                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-17  7:07                                                                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-15 20:55                                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-15 21:36                                                                         ` Eric Holmberg
2009-07-15 22:09                                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:22                                                                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16  7:16                                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-16 20:54                                                                             ` Gilles Casse
2009-07-17  0:29                                                                               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-07-24 14:08                                                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16  7:14                                                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:08                                                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-03  8:25                                                     ` Stefan Roese
2009-06-03 13:50                                                     ` Eric Holmberg
2009-06-07 10:16                                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-07-28 12:01                                                         ` news
2009-07-28 12:24                                                           ` Adrian Hunter
2009-07-28 17:19                                                           ` Eric Holmberg
2009-08-09  4:59                                                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-04-17  8:58                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy

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