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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Cc: "Bityutskiy Artem \(Nokia-D/Helsinki\)"
	<Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>,
	David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] nandsim: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:42:16 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091125084630.AFC5.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0BC9E3.6070504@nokia.com>

> ext KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Thank you for this useful comments.
> > 
> >>> I vaguely remember Adrian (CCed) did this on purpose. This is for the
> >>> case when nandsim emulates NAND flash on top of a file. So there are 2
> >>> file-systems involved: one sits on top of nandsim (e.g. UBIFS) and the
> >>> other owns the file which nandsim uses (e.g., ext3).
> >>>
> >>> And I really cannot remember off the top of my head why he needed
> >>> PF_MEMALLOC, but I think Adrian wanted to prevent the direct reclaim
> >>> path to re-enter, say UBIFS, and cause deadlock. But I'd thing that all
> >>> the allocations in vfs_read()/vfs_write() should be GFP_NOFS, so that
> >>> should not be a probelm?
> >>>
> >> Yes it needs PF_MEMALLOC to prevent deadlock because there can be a
> >> file system on top of nandsim which, in this case, is on top of another
> >> file system.
> >>
> >> I do not see how mempools will help here.
> >>
> >> Please offer an alternative solution.
> > 
> > I have few questions.
> > 
> > Can you please explain more detail? Another stackable filesystam
> > (e.g. ecryptfs) don't have such problem. Why nandsim have its issue?
> > What lock cause deadlock?
> 
> The file systems are not stacked.  One is over nandsim, which nandsim
> does not know about because it is just a lowly NAND device, and, with
> the file cache option, one file system below to provide the file cache.
> 
> The deadlock is the kernel writing out dirty pages to the top file system
> which writes to nandsim which writes to the bottom file system which
> allocates memory which causes dirty pages to be written out to the top
> file system, which tries to write to nandsim => deadlock.

You mean you want to prevent pageout() instead reclaim itself?
Dropping filecache seems don't make recursive call, right?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-25  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091117161551.3DD4.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2009-11-17  7:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] mtd: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17  7:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] nandsim: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-23 15:00   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-23 20:01     ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-24 10:46       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-24 11:56         ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25  0:42           ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-11-25  7:13             ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25  7:18               ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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