From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
Michael Opdenacker <michael.opdenacker@free-electrons.com>,
Piergiorgio Beruto <piergiorgio.beruto@gmail.com>,
Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:27:15 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210082714.GB10872@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392017750.31031.8.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com>
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:35:50AM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 23:48 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:51:57AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > [..]
> > >
> > > > > This I think it's a bad idea to artificially remove some features
> > > > > if they're not broken.
> > > >
> > > > Your arguments have convinced me, let's keep it and hope the best.
> > >
> >
> > Let me add that keeping the write support follows the whole "mechanism,
> > not policy" kernel motto, doesn't it?
> >
> > Regarding users, well the option looks like this:
> >
> > [ ] Enable write support (DANGEROUS)
> >
> > I think any user would think twice before enabling it.
>
> Linus and Andrew usually ask reasonable questions like these for new
> features. I'd like to ask them for the write feature.
>
> Who are the customers for these?
> How are the user of the write feature? How many?
I'm not aware of any. So far all the users that I'm aware of will be using
this to mount a squashfs.
> Have it been tested? If yes, how?
>
To be honest, not much.
> These are really the things which define whether the feature should be
> in or not, I think.
>
> If write support has 0 or 1.5 customers and it was not tested
> extensively, and never used in any kind of production, I am not sure it
> is needed to be there. But let's first hear your answers.
>
No, this hasn't been tested intensively and I'm pretty sure nobody would
ever put it in production before conducting such tests himself.
> It is simple is not good argument. It will be as simple to add it too.
>
OK.
> WRT to DANGEROUS sign, people do not read Kconfig help. Some distro will
> just enable this, people will start using this, and then start sending
> unappy e-mails. We have this with MTD block. No matter how many times I
> wrote to people that this is just a debugging module, they still kept
> using it.
>
If you really think distros will enable it and users will "just it", without
thinking about the consequences, then I'd say let's just remove it.
--
Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-10 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-29 20:38 [PATCH 0/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-29 20:38 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-31 17:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-04 11:06 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 16:50 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 21:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 22:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 22:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:10 ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:25 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-09 0:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-09 7:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 2:48 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 7:35 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10 8:27 ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]
2014-02-10 8:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:20 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 14:41 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10 14:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10 14:52 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 16:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:53 ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 18:48 ` Ezequiel Garcia
[not found] ` <a86d653a-9e3b-46dc-9ec8-94a9c1099bec@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 21:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-11 9:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11 9:35 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-11 9:43 ` Peter Korsgaard
2014-02-11 10:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-10 22:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
[not found] ` <de976336-3144-4f21-859b-d1a37fc3d811@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 22:46 ` Thomas Petazzoni
[not found] ` <a3fc06a8-c809-4687-9da4-015bd8dd29e8@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 23:01 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10 23:19 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 8:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-08 23:05 ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 8:42 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10 8:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 1:29 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 7:53 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10 8:12 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 8:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10 8:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 8:50 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-09 22:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10 2:36 ` Ezequiel Garcia
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