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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Michael Opdenacker <michael.opdenacker@free-electrons.com>,
	Piergiorgio Beruto <piergiorgio.beruto@gmail.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:19:32 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210231931.GA29523@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140210234600.3a03b346@skate>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:46:00PM +0100, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:41:54 +0100, Piergiorgio Beruto wrote:
> 
> > sorry for interrupting

Please, don't apoplogize. As a user of this you have all the right
-maybe the obligation- to interrupt :-)

> The point about the caching feature was not really the increased code
> size, but rather the memory consumption caused by the cache itself.
> This can be solved using a runtime configurable module parameter.
> 

Yes, Artem is suggestion that direction too. The write support can be
added with an already existent block device ioctl (blockdev --setrw).

As for the cache, well... we could have a module parameter. The problem
I see in that, is that the block interface is *not* a module (as I recently
pointed out). Instead, it's integrated into the UBI core.

Therefore, it would be an UBI module parameter, such as "ubi.block_cache
= yes/no". I really don't like this.

Oh, and *please* don't ask about the non-module choice. Having the block
interface as an extension of the UBI core, the userspace interface
results very intuitive.

We have a new UBI module parameter:

  $ modprobe ubi mtd=/dev/mtd5 block=/dev/ubi0_0

And a simple tool, which re-uses the already existent UBI ioctl:

  $ ubiblkvol --attach /dev/ubi0_0
  $ ubiblkvol --detach /dev/ubi0_0

The modularized approach meant a very complex userspace interface. It
seemed to require *another* control char device:

  https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/8/15/145

*** ***

On the other side, I don't really agree with all this fuzz around the
two compile options. The code is *really* dead simple, as I went to
great extents to keep it simple.

Sadly, we are not reaching any agreement. So unless anybody has a better
idea, I'd go for a solution that suits the squashfs user: no cache,
no write support.

Artem? What do you say?
-- 
Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-29 20:38 [PATCH 0/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-29 20:38 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-31 17:06   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-04 11:06     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 16:50       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 21:37   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 22:51     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 22:56       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:01         ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:10           ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:15             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:25               ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:37                 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-09  0:17                   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-09  7:51                     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  2:48                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  7:35                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10  8:27                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  8:46                             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:20                               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 14:41                                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10 14:50                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10 14:52                                   ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 16:15                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:53                                   ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 18:48                                   ` Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found]                                     ` <a86d653a-9e3b-46dc-9ec8-94a9c1099bec@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 21:43                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11  8:37                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-11  9:05                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11  9:35                                             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-11  9:43                                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2014-02-11 10:21                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-10 22:37                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]                                       ` <de976336-3144-4f21-859b-d1a37fc3d811@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 22:46                                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]                                           ` <a3fc06a8-c809-4687-9da4-015bd8dd29e8@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 23:01                                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10 23:19                                           ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]
2014-02-10  8:50                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-08 23:05         ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13           ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  8:42       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10  8:51         ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  1:29     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  7:53       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10  8:12         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  8:24           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10  8:37             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  8:50             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-09 22:56   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10  2:36     ` Ezequiel Garcia

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